Her Empowered Divorce

HER EMPOWERED DIVORCE

HOST: Beverly Price, Divorce & Empowerment Coach

GUEST: Vicky Townsend, President of Divorce Right Inc.

SUMMARY:

Our guest on this episode of Her Empowered Divorce is highlighting the terrible (and usually unnecessary) damage that contentious, drawn-out divorces inflict – on our bodies, our psyches and our financial futures. Vicky Townsend, president of Divorce Right Inc., shares with Host Beverly Price her passion for providing resources to avoid the kind of disturbing fallout reflected in the statistics. Divorced women are at higher risk of illness, poverty, bankruptcy and mental health issues. Their children, too, suffer from the stress. But it doesn’t have to be that way, says Vicky, whose company specializes in advising employee assistance programs. She explains the many ways in which divorce negatively impacts workplaces – in terms of profitability, productivity and performance – and how putting in place solid HR strategies helps employees and employers alike navigate to a better place. Without adequate guidance and support, women often experience shame and isolation – especially on the job. Many simply quit. You’ll learn about the tools available to HR departments – and to all of us – and how an investment in coaching can pay significant bottom-line dividends. Vicky shares Top Tips for getting through what is one of life’s most overwhelming transitions while protecting your health and the promise of a brighter future. “Just know that there’s help out there – people you can bring into your case that will make it feel better,” she Vicky, who is also the founder of the National Association of Divorce Professionals. You’ll come away from this conversation ready to enlist the help of a certified divorce professional who can steer you away from the landmines of acrimonious divorce and towards a settlement in which everyone wins. Take heart. There is a kinder, gentler way!

Click here to schedule a consultation with Vicky and find out about the HR and other support services her firm provides. You might also be interested in trying this cost calculator at the Divorce Right website.

If you’d like to schedule a complimentary private consultation, reach out to Beverly at this link. You can also join her Empowered Divorce Women’s Meetup Group here.

Visit this link to access the entire archive of Her Empowered Divorce episodes and while you’re there, please subscribe, rate and review our show!

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

·      Vicky’s Story: About her mission to reduce the confusion, frustration and wasted resources that are so common in the world of family law and divorce.

·      Reverberations at Work: How the stress of divorce negatively impacts women in the workplace – and the HR solutions that Vicky and her team offer to mitigate the billions of dollars of lost productivity.

·      Disturbing Stats: About the shocking rates at which divorce drives single mothers into poverty and bankruptcy.

·      3 Reasons Women Leave Their Jobs (and What HR Can Do About It):

o  They feel completely unsupported and isolated during their process. (Answer: Get people coaching and resources.)

o  They can’t find affordable housing close to work. (Answer: Facilitate guidance from Certified Divorce Lending Association professionals).

o  Lack of affordable child care. (Answer: Consider providing either a stipend or on-site facility that provides coverage).

·      There All Kinds of Divorce – Which Do You Really Want to Choose?

o  Lawyered up with a bulldog! (Even if only 3% of divorces go to a full trial.)

o  Mediation.

o  Arbitration.

o  DIY.

·      Before embarking on a high-conflict divorce, consider:

o  Physical impacts from the stress (for men and women): heightened risk for a variety of cancers, myocardial events and even suicide.

o  Traumatic impacts on children, including increased risk for suicide.

o  Increased rates of bankruptcy.

o  Long-term mental health deterioration, including chronic depression and anxiety.

·      Major Impacts of Divorce in the Workplace:

o  Absenteeism for court appointments, negotiations, home sales.

o  Errors caused by distraction.

o  The loss of divorcing employees, some 10% of whom quit in the first year.

·      Goodbye, Shame & Guilt: Why fewer than 10% of employees go to HR about their divorce and how to overcome the isolation and hiding that often results in as much as a 40% loss of productivity over three to five years!

·      Vicky’s Three Key Takeaways:

o  #1: Take care of your health! The more you escalate conflict, the more you suffer real consequences mentally and physically.

o  #2: Consider the children and make it a priority to find a gentle way to navigate the divorce process for the sake of them and the whole family.

o  #3: Reach out to a divorce coach to:

§ Keep yourself out of the “muck and mire.”

§ Help you with strategy and communication.

§ Role play and anticipate areas of friction.

§ Facilitate plans for child custody.

§ Keep an eye on details that might otherwise fall off the radar.

§ Clear the fog of details, unknowns and overwhelm.

·      Yoga & Meditation: These practices are a great way to calm the cortisol that floods our bodies when we’re under the stress and uncertainty of divorce. Make it a priority!

·      Parting Thought: Hire a certified coach who knows the industry and can help you (and your kids) avoid the landmines to come through divorce as unscathed as possible.

NOTABLE QUOTES:

·      “(Family law) is a labyrinthine system by design that you can spend your life savings trying to get through.” (Vicky)

·      “Divorce is a Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. business. So if that’s your company’s hours, that’s also the time that your employees are going through it.” (Vicky)

·      “When you ‘lawyer up’ and get that bulldog, that immediately sets the tone and communication between the spouses is done.” (Vicky)

·      “The most important conversation you can have to prevent hostility is the initial conversation … because the way that conversation is handled sets the tone for the entire process and your co-parenting.” (Beverly)

·      “You need somebody that’s an outside force, that can tell it to you like it is – what reality is and not what you think it is.” (Vicky)

·      “You are just not able to process thoroughly when you’re under stress and divorce is nothing but stress. So just know that there’s help out there – people you can bring into your case that will make it feel better.” (Vicky)

·      “When looking for a divorce coach, make sure that you get a certified divorce coach; someone that has been through training.” (Beverly)

·      There are a lot of divorce coaches who have hung up a shingle because they’ve been through divorce themselves, but you really need somebody that’s trained in a number of situations.” (Beverly)

FURTHER RESOURCES/RELEVANT LINKS:

·      More about the National Association of Divorce Professionals at this link.

·      Find out about Divorce Lending Association professionals and what they do.

·      Beverly’s personal Facebook page can be found here.

·      Women’s Divorce and Empowerment group discussion available here.

ABOUT OUR GUEST:

Vicky Townsend is the President and founder of Divorce Right, a professional development and employee assistance program company. Vicky is also the co-founder of the National Association of Divorce Professionals, an association for all the licensed professionals that work with clients before, during, and after divorce. Vicky has worked for years in the divorce industry, but also knows first-hand how painful and frustrating the divorce process is. After going through it herself in 2013, Vicky experienced a complicated system that is costly, filled with errors and difficult to navigate. Realizing there needs to be radical change to improve a broken family law system, Vicky decided to revolutionize the divorce process by founding Divorce Right. Divorce Right caters to Fortune 1000 companies and government agencies to help their employees through this grueling process.

FOLLOW OUR GUEST:

WEBSITE | LINKEDIN | EMAIL | FACEBOOK

ABOUT YOUR HOST:

Beverly Price is a CDC Certified Divorce Coach®️and Women’s empowerment coach with over 25 years of experience. Her passion lies in supporting women through every aspect of separation and divorce. She offers a comprehensive coaching experience that goes beyond just empowerment work to help clients develop their communication, conflict management, boundary setting and negotiation skills. Beverly also provides expertise on the technical, legal, and financial aspects of the divorce process. Women will learn how to evaluate whether they want to stay or go in their marriage and how to make the best possible decisions for themselves and their families. With a holistic approach that combines goal-oriented strategies with emotional support, Beverly’s coaching helps clients build a positive and fulfilling future for themselves and their families during and after divorce.

CONTACT YOUR HOST, BEVERLY PRICE:

WEBSITE | INSTAGRAM | FACEBOOK | SPOTIFY | YOUTUBE | LINKEDIN | EMAIL

CHECK OUT MY FREE EBOOK:12 Steps to Empowerment https://herempowereddivorce.com/12-steps-to-empowerment-1



 A Warm Shoutout To Our Amazing Sponsor:

SOBERLINK

As parents, we often have gut feelings when something just isn’t right. 

This can be especially true in co-parenting arrangements where one parent is struggling with addiction. 

If you’re co-parenting with an ex-spouse who abuses alcohol, Soberlink can help. 

Soberlink’s alcohol monitoring system is the most convenient, reliable, and reasonable way for a parent to provide evidence that they are not drinking during parenting time. 

The system’s real-time alerts, facial recognition, and tamper detection ensure the integrity of each test, so you can be confident your kids are with a sober parent. 

With Soberlink, judges rest assured that your child is safe, attorneys get court-admissible evidence of sobriety, and your kids are able to maintain healthy relationships with BOTH parents. 

To sign up and get $50 off your device, visit www.soberlink.com/empowered 

HER EMPOWERED DIVORCE

HOST: Beverly Price, Divorce & Empowerment Coach

GUEST: Tresa Leftenant, CFP, Author, Speaker, Reinvention Mentor

SUMMARY:

Claiming our financial power isn’t the only step, but it’s among the most critical when it comes to securing the post-divorce life we envision and deserve. On this episode of Her Empowered Divorce, Host Beverly Price welcomes a financial adviser, author and reinvention mentor with actionable tips that will enable you to move forward with confidence. Tresa Leftenant, a Certified Financial Planner and author of "Reinventing Her: Helping Women Plan, Pursue, and Capitalize Their Next Chapter," helps us prioritize the primary building blocks for negotiating a successful divorce and financial independence. She explains the elements we want to put in place to support peace of mind as well as her perspective on financial abuse – a pervasive dynamic that all women need to consider. You’ll come away with both pragmatic advice and a stronger sense of your agency before, during and after the process of divorce. It’s all about laying the groundwork for a future that reflects your heart’s desire and putting in place a pragmatic, manageable plan to get there. “Anybody can learn this,” says Tresa. “You just have to be willing to take the time and have someone explain it to you in a way that is on your wavelength.”

You can find out more about how to connect with Tresa at her website or sign up for a free download of "The Money Stress Solution: Self-Confidence Checklist."

If you’d like to schedule a complimentary private consultation, reach out to Beverly at this link. You can also join her Empowered Divorce Women’s Meetup Group here.

Visit this link to access the entire archive of Her Empowered Divorce episodes and while you’re there, please subscribe, rate and review our show!

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

·      Questions your CFP should be asking:

o  What exactly do you want in your future?

o  What is your vision for your life?

o  What steps are you taking to actually improve your life?

·      Word to the Wise: Make sure your financial planner is a licensed fiduciary, which adds a layer of responsibility to their decision-making.

·      Niche Focus: About Tresa’s commitment and attention to women – and in particular those navigating divorce or widowhood.

·      Why the Fear?

o  Women receive messages growing up that discourage them from believing that they can be financially independent – and get there on their own!

o  No one wants to fail or make the mistakes necessary to learn.

·      That Important First Step: Women need to understand their reality and process what they want in the context of their situation before embarking on a divorce.

·      Baseline Financial Planning Questions:

o  What are the short- and long-term goals?

o  What is the timeline for taking action to reach those goals?

·      Ongoing Support: Because money is always in motion, the savvy woman constantly monitors her financial plan and stays regularly in touch with her adviser.

·      Social Conditioning: Not unlike sexual abuse, Tresa believes financial abuse diminishes, disempowers and traps women.

·      Word to the Wise: You can call upon your feminine power and demand equal access to financial education, resources and agency to make decisions.” (Tresa)

·      Word to the Wise: Insist on having the tough financial conversations and access to decisions around money from the outset of your relationships. It’s a trust thing.

·      Things to Prioritize in Divorce:

o  Have a spending plan that takes into consideration who you really are and what you really want?

o  Find your purpose and passion and let that guide you.

o  Get clear about who you are if not married and what song you want to sing.

·      Three Actionable Tips:

o  #1: Commit to (and get excited about) being 100% intentional and responsible for every single financial decision.

o  #2: Put your emergency fun in place as soon as possible so that you don’t have to rely on borrowing or credit cards.

o  #3: Transition your mindset from budgeting to a spending plan that focuses on what you want, what it costs and how to get there.

NOTABLE QUOTES:

·      “Twenty years ago I started my own company because I wanted my clients to be my boss instead of having a company be my boss.” (Tresa)

·      “Women like to talk to women (about financial planning). We speak the same language.” (Tresa)

·      “We get cultural messages that women need a man to help us make the really complicated decisions around investing or estate planning or insurance … (but) anybody can learn this. You just have to be willing to take the time and have someone explain it to you in a way that is on your wavelength.” (Tresa)

·      “When money is in movement, that’s when you have to be critically careful about the timing of certain decisions.” (Tresa)

·      “To be a successful woman and grow wealth on your own requires that you make it a priority.” (Tresa)

·      “When you’re in a partnership, the way to negotiate a future is to have an equal input – … You deserve to be informed. You deserve to be an equal partner in the (financial choices).” (Tresa)

·      “Financial abuse is abundant, it’s huge in most marriages and it’s probably the reason for a lot of divorces.” (Tresa)

·      “The bottom line is that a woman has to step in and claim her power in her financial decisions.” (Beverly)

·      “If a husband is withholding information or putting you down, hiding things or saying you don’t need to see this, that’s when alarm bells should go off.” (Beverly)

·      “Budgets are limiting. Spending plans are expansive.” (Tresa)

FURTHER RESOURCES/RELEVANT LINKS:

·      Beverly’s personal Facebook page can be found here.

·      Women’s Divorce and Empowerment group discussion available here.

ABOUT OUR GUEST:

Tresa Leftenant is a Certified Financial Planner™ and founder of an independent financial planning and investment management company in Bellevue, WA. She is a Certified Trainer of Jack Canfield's Success Principles and author of Reinventing Her - Helping Women Plan, Pursue, and Capitalize on Their Next Chapter. Tresa is passionate about guiding suddenly single women to find their voice and step into a better financial future. Her signature coaching program is The Reinvention Blueprint - 7 Essential Inner Habits for More Confidence, Clarity and Financial Wellbeing

FOLLOW OUR GUEST:

WEBSITE | COACHING |FACEBOOK | LINKEDIN | EMAIL

ABOUT YOUR HOST:

Beverly Price is a CDC Certified Divorce Coach®️and Women’s empowerment coach with over 25 years of experience. Her passion lies in supporting women through every aspect of separation and divorce. She offers a comprehensive coaching experience that goes beyond just empowerment work to help clients develop their communication, conflict management, boundary setting and negotiation skills. Beverly also provides expertise on the technical, legal, and financial aspects of the divorce process. Women will learn how to evaluate whether they want to stay or go in their marriage and how to make the best possible decisions for themselves and their families. With a holistic approach that combines goal-oriented strategies with emotional support, Beverly’s coaching helps clients build a positive and fulfilling future for themselves and their families during and after divorce.

CONTACT YOUR HOST:

WEBSITE | INSTAGRAM | FACEBOOK | SPOTIFY | YOUTUBE | LINKEDIN | EMAIL

CHECK OUT MY FREE EBOOK:12 Steps to Empowerment https://herempowereddivorce.com/12-steps-to-empowerment-1



 A Warm Shoutout To Our Amazing Sponsor:

SOBERLINK

As parents, we often have gut feelings when something just isn’t right. 

This can be especially true in co-parenting arrangements where one parent is struggling with addiction. 

If you’re co-parenting with an ex-spouse who abuses alcohol, Soberlink can help. 

Soberlink’s alcohol monitoring system is the most convenient, reliable, and reasonable way for a parent to provide evidence that they are not drinking during parenting time. 

The system’s real-time alerts, facial recognition, and tamper detection ensure the integrity of each test, so you can be confident your kids are with a sober parent. 

With Soberlink, judges rest assured that your child is safe, attorneys get court-admissible evidence of sobriety, and your kids are able to maintain healthy relationships with BOTH parents. 

To sign up and get $50 off your device, visit www.soberlink.com/empowered 

HER EMPOWERED DIVORCE

HOST: Beverly Price, Divorce & Empowerment Coach

GUEST: Lisa Dahl, Certified Intuitive Eating and Wellness Coach

SUMMARY:

Life is messy, magical and full of gifts – if we are in a place to receive them! That’s why Lisa Dahl, a certified Intuitive Eating and Wellness Coach, makes it her business to ensure clients have what they need to navigate life’s big transitions. As she explains to Host Beverly Price on this episode of Her Empowered Divorce, there are holistic systems that we can put in place to secure our children’s wellbeing as well as our financial stability and overall health through even the most challenging of divorce scenarios. You’ll find out how to cultivate hope through awareness and solid planning, tapping the right resources and talking with people in a position to provide necessary support. Think of it not as “self-care” but “self-preservation.” Divorce can be frightening and anxiety-provoking but, says Lisa, it needn’t be isolating. There are ways to find social nourishment and stay connected with our dreams by using tools like the Health & Wellness Vision Plan detailed in this episode. “When you have an intrinsic motivation and you feel it from the inside-out – that’s when change happens,” says Lisa, whose coaching helps women develop the clear, positive mindset and action plan they need to move through divorce towards the promise of a new – and happy – life beyond. As Beverly concludes: “Divorce can be a springboard to a happy and fulfilling life.” It’s just a matter of bringing the right help on board to get you there!

Lisa Dahl shares her message regularly on her YouTube program, "Getting Healthy Without Rules" and she also offers free “office hours” and lots of nourishing resources at this link.

If you’d like to schedule a complimentary private consultation, reach out to Beverly at this link. You can also join her Empowered Divorce Women’s Meetup Group here.

Want to hear more? Please visit this link to access the entire archive of Her Empowered Divorce episodes and while you’re there, please subscribe, rate and review our show!

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

·      Nobody Wins: The goal when negotiating divorce is to get to the other side whole and intact. The question to ask is: What is the price of peace?

·      Power of Self-Care: Call it self-preservation, because that’s what it is! When we nurture ourselves, we are investing in our most precious asset and protecting those we love.

·      Strategic Advice: Why it’s important to know which professionals you’re talking to and the purpose behind – and goals for – those (often expensive) conversations.

·      The Big Picture: Remember that there’s nothing indulgent about putting in place a team that protects not only your finances and children but your own mental and emotional wellness (so you’re empowered and able to manage into the future).

·      About Lisa’s Wellness Coaching Superpowers, including help to:

o  Carve out space for self-care.

o  Call out and redirect negative self-talk.

o  Recognize achievements and things worth celebrating.

o  Create moments that spark hope.

·      What Your Health & Wellness Vision Plan is all about:

o  Not only divorced people but ALL people need one!

o  Summarizes goals, hopes, dreams, visions.

o  Assesses past challenges.

o  Highlights coping skills and tools learned along the way.

o  Codifies a vision with a (short-, medium- and long-term) timeline.  

o  Removes barriers to executing on plans moving forward.

·      Social Nourishment: How our health and wellness are tied to community connections – which can take many forms and guard against loneliness, isolation and food issues.

·      Actions & Behaviors: Why it’s important to shift away from big-picture outcomes (which can be overwhelming) to focus instead on motivational thoughts and incremental steps.

·      Three Actionable Tips:

o  #1: Find joy!

o  #2: Notice recurring negative thoughts and write down positive ones instead.

o  #3: Refrain from saying anything disparaging about your partner

·      Parting Thought: Life can be chaotic but there is magic inside of the mess. It’s just a matter of finding resources to help you find the promise and hope!

NOTABLE QUOTES:

·      “(Divorcing) was one of the most frightening times in my life and it was before the resources that are available now. The support wasn’t there.” (Lisa)

·      “Women have been taught for generations to take care of everyone else and not themselves. And to invest in everyone else and not themselves.” (Beverly)

·      “Some people think self-care equates to being lazy, but I think it can be one of the most active processes you take … It’s not just a nice to do. It’s a must do!” (Beverly)

·      “Social isolation and a lack of social nourishment are important risks for women. No matter what stage you are at ... there’s a space and place for everybody.” (Lisa)

·      “When you have an intrinsic motivation and you feel it from the inside-out – that’s when change happens.” (Lisa)

·      “The best gift you can give your child is for him or her to discover who you are as individuals and keep your (marital) baggage locked up.” (Lisa)

·      “As hard as it was – and I considered it financial suicide – (divorce) was the best decision I ever made for me and my children. They got to see the best of their dad versus the demise of our marriage.” (Lisa)

FURTHER RESOURCES/RELEVANT LINKS:

·      "Wake Up Grateful: The Transformative Practice of Taking Nothing for Granted," by Kristi Nelson.

·      Beverly’s personal Facebook page can be found here.

·      Women’s Divorce and Empowerment group discussion available here.

ABOUT OUR GUEST:

Lisa Dahl is a certified Health and Wellness Coach specializing in Intuitive Eating, Mindful Eating and Body Image. Her emphasis on mindfulness and self-compassion helps women find a successful pathway to whole-body wellness. With compassion and expertise, she supports her clients as they discover “Body Peace & Food Freedom” on their journey to break free from dieting and diet culture. Her clients achieve a higher level of well-being through visioning, goal setting and accountability. Lisa has certifications in Intuitive Eating, Mindful Eating, health and wellness coaching and personal training. She is a skilled group facilitator with credentials from The Body Positive and Gratefulness.org and is presently preparing for the National Board Certification for Health and Wellness Coaches.

FOLLOW OUR GUEST:

WEBSITE | INSTAGRAM |FACEBOOK | LINKEDIN | EMAIL | YOUTUBE

ABOUT YOUR HOST:

Beverly Price is a CDC Certified Divorce Coach®️and Women’s empowerment coach with over 25 years of experience. Her passion lies in supporting women through every aspect of separation and divorce. She offers a comprehensive coaching experience that goes beyond just empowerment work to help clients develop their communication, conflict management, boundary setting and negotiation skills. Beverly also provides expertise on the technical, legal, and financial aspects of the divorce process. Women will learn how to evaluate whether they want to stay or go in their marriage and how to make the best possible decisions for themselves and their families. With a holistic approach that combines goal-oriented strategies with emotional support, Beverly’s coaching helps clients build a positive and fulfilling future for themselves and their families during and after divorce.

CONTACT YOUR HOST:

WEBSITE | INSTAGRAM | FACEBOOK | SPOTIFY | YOUTUBE | LINKEDIN | EMAIL

 A Warm Shoutout To Our Amazing Sponsor:

SOBERLINK

As parents, we often have gut feelings when something just isn’t right. 

This can be especially true in co-parenting arrangements where one parent is struggling with addiction. 

If you’re co-parenting with an ex-spouse who abuses alcohol, Soberlink can help. 

Soberlink’s alcohol monitoring system is the most convenient, reliable, and reasonable way for a parent to provide evidence that they are not drinking during parenting time. 

The system’s real-time alerts, facial recognition, and tamper detection ensure the integrity of each test, so you can be confident your kids are with a sober parent. 

With Soberlink, judges rest assured that your child is safe, attorneys get court-admissible evidence of sobriety, and your kids are able to maintain healthy relationships with BOTH parents. 

To sign up and get $50 off your device, visit www.soberlink.com/empowered 

Many people feel divorce is a death sentence. But with the right support and guidance, you can move through the process with knowledge, skills and confidence. It can also be a time of growth and progress. As a divorce and empowerment coach, I'm an invaluable member of your divorce team. I help you understand and navigate the process, come to terms with your emotions, avoid costly mistakes, learn skills to help you communicate and negotiate, find your true voice and create an empowered life post-divorce. If you're interested in learning more, schedule a free consultation at herempowereddivorce.com.

Beverly Price: Hi everyone. Welcome to the Her Empowered Divorce Podcast. I'm Beverly Price, your host and divorce and empowerment coach. This podcast is made for you. No matter what phase of separation or divorce you're in, whether you're just thinking about it, having separated, are in the midst of the legal and financial negotiations, or are already divorced, this is for you. And boy am I excited today. My guests are TH Irwin and Jessica Klingbaum of exEXPERTS, and I can't wait for you to hear them tell you about exEXPERTS. These two ladies are two best friends who got divorced at the exact same time. How about that? And although they had completely different experiences, they were lucky enough to have each other through it all. They rose from a lack of resource support and information during their separate journeys, and they both had the desire to help others maneuver through the process. And we have that in common. And from that, they created exEXPERTS. Jessica is an Emmy nominated former TV producer for several national news networks. I am so intimidated, Jessica.

Jessica Klingbaum: You don't have to be intimidated.

Beverly Price: And she's an external optimist and someone who always sees the silver lining. So beautiful. And TH Irwin began her career at a boutique market research firm. I started my career in market research too. How about that?

TH Irwin: It helped me a lot in my career.

Beverly Price: Yeah. And she worked for Anderson Consulting, which is a very high stress progress driven organization. And fun role as director of experiential events for USA today. In 2020, they co-founded exEXPERTS and I'll let you tell more about them and that organization. Hi TH and Jessica, thank you so much for being my guest today. It's so good to have you. You both have made such an impact on women. I can't wait to hear from you.

Jessica Klingbaum: Thank you so much. And thank you so much for the opportunity to come on and share our stories.

T.H. Irwin: Yeah, we're really excited to talk.

Beverly Price: Oh, we are too. You are the first time that I've ever had two guests at once, so we're going to take a stab at making sure this works just fine. So either one or both of you, what is exEXPERTS and how does it help women?

T.H. Irwin: So we created exEXPERTS because we found a need for it as we were going through our own divorces. We had one another to lean on the entire time, and our divorces were completely different. And what we ended up realizing is it's less about the business of divorce, even though we certainly helped one another out in terms of things to think about when negotiating, like college and cars and [?] mitzvahs and who's paying for all that stuff. But I think at the beginning we kind of took it for granted that we had each other, we had our weekends covered, holidays covered, New Year's Eve covered with one another. And we had someone who was literally walking in our shoes at the same time, which is, I think very uncommon, especially for close, close friends. So eventually we realized, you know what? We really need to create a platform to help other people so they have a TH and Jessica in their lives. A place to go, someone to rely on a good listener. And that's why we created exEXPERTS, which is essentially a platform of aggregated information. Our values are to empower, support and educate anyone going through divorce. We're not going to tell you who your right lawyer is. We're not going to say you have to use this coach, but we will educate you so you can make the best choices for yourself.

And so that's the purpose of exEXPERTS and our divorce, etc. podcast. We have over 140 exEXPERTS including Beverly, who will soon be on with us. A people who find it essentially important that people know that when you walk into a lawyer's office, you should be asking questions. And this is coming from lawyers. They want to do the best job they can for you and each of the different disciplines that you might hire. When you're thinking about divorce, you're going through it. And by the way, when you're done and you're signed, that's when the real work comes into play. That's when you really need to be educated. So exEXPERTS was created on the premise of supporting one another. You are not alone. You can do things that you think are hard, you're capable of much more than you realize. And that's because Jessica and I had each other and we actually lived it. So we get it.

Beverly Price: Now, Jessica, you've got this online platform, you've got this podcast, but you also have some in-person events too, right? So you cover all the different ways to reach people.

Jessica Klingbaum: We do. I mean, the podcast and the website and our social accounts are really filled with resources for people to, as TH said, become educated on what do you need to know if and when you're going through a divorce, what questions do you need to ask certain experts? What type of experts might be involved in your divorce? How to negotiate certain things, how to navigate the process. We have in-person events. We've done an actual in-person event, but most of them have been virtual. And it's a combination. Some of them are really more of support groups. We call them inner circles because we want to help to be people's inner circle that they can come to a safe space and talk about whatever is the latest going on that week, that day in their process, and be able to help guide them and have support from other people in the group that have also been through the same things. And some of our events have been focused more on doing a deeper dive into a specific topic. So we've had our experts involved and we would have an event where we would sell tickets and it would be online and it would be what type of divorce is right for you or how to budget and pay for your divorce. Correct.  So we're offering our experts in a more personal close-up venue for people to be able to actually engage and ask questions and have access to them during those events.

Beverly Price: Oh, that's beautiful. I just finished a podcast series on divorce experts where I interviewed each one of the specialized divorce professionals. And it was fascinating just to learn what they did and what they have to offer. Well, I'm really intrigued.

Jessica Klingbaum: Exactly, and our part of…

Beverly Price: Go ahead. No, you go ahead.

Jessica Klingbaum: No, I was going to say part of what we say is you don't know what you don't know when it comes to divorce. Particularly if you're going through it for the first time, you just simply don't know. But we do because we've been through it. So that's why we're here to be able to help give that information to everyone.

Beverly Price: Absolutely. And a lot of times what I've found is people turn let's say to their family, to their parents, to their friends to get input. And sometimes someone got divorced so long ago that many of these experts and this information wasn't even available. And so this is a great way to stay up to date on everything that's going on. And also, I think it's educated so that the other thing I've found with some of my clients is their family is incredibly well-intentioned and so are their friends, but they may give inaccurate advice because they don't know the specifics of that situation or the law in that state or whatever it is. So I think what you're doing is, is so impressive.

Jessica Klingbaum: It's funny because even TH and I, so we were two best friends who got divorced at the exact same time. It looked very similar on the outside because we had found out within a week of each other that both of our husbands were having affairs and covering for each other. So on the outside it looked like two divorces that you'd think would be very similar because our husbands were cheating. But we had two totally different divorces. And so to your point, like if we hadn't necessarily gotten divorced at the same time, whoever would've gone first would've been like, oh, I used this lawyer and this is how it went and this is what you should expect. And our divorces could not have been more different. So we always say to people, it doesn't matter if you have a friend or a sibling or your parents or a colleague or an acquaintance. Even if you know people who've been divorced, that's great. And as you said Beverly, they are well intentioned. So it's nice and important to hear people's perspective, but it's most important to keep in mind that your process is going to be unlike anybody else's exactly. And what we're offering people is resources and direction and navigation and how to find out what your process should be so that you don't make decisions based purely on what other people are saying.

T.H. Irwin: I was also going to say that they're not objective points of view either coming from your family and your friends. And so thank you so much. I really appreciate you giving me direction and some input, but don't go by that input and direction. You can listen to it, but then take what you are learning because they've got skin in the game. You want someone who has no skin in your game to be completely objective, realistic, manager your expectations and give you really the straight up story of how to proceed.

Beverly Price: Yeah. And I also think that goes hand in hand with getting recommendations for divorce professionals to work with in terms of recommending for say an attorney because their situation may warrant mediation rather than litigation. Or they may be looking for someone that has specialized experience in domestic violence and the attorney that was recommended didn't. So just like you, I vet and recommend professionals based on very specific experience that would fit that person's need. Now I deal just with women and you guys deal with men and women, but I really believe that it's critical and I provide two to three resources for the client to interview. I believe it's critical that you have absolutely the best team that you can have working on your divorce.

T.H. Irwin: I mean, if you think about it, it's like if you're, if you're sick, I appreciate your input, I'm looking on WebMD, I'm getting information from everybody. You're going to the best doctor for whatever you're sick for. So it's the same thing here. You're going to go to the best lawyer, you're going to go to the right person who's the right fit for your finances and your financial situation and your living situation even for dating and stuff like that. Thank you for your advice, I really appreciate it and then go and do the work. Don't rely on friends and family and their input. Just say, you know what? I could just really use a hug right now and then kind of get them off of the advice dear Abby Trail.

Beverly Price: Yeah, absolutely. So it's fascinating to me that both of your divorces involved infidelity, but it's not too surprising because infidelity is one of the leading causes of divorce. Did you each have a totally different reaction to the infidelity and then moving forward from the infidelity? And could you tell us a little bit about that?

Jessica Klingbaum: I'll start with that. So we definitely had very different reactions. I had met my husband when I was 18 and we split up when I was 36. So we'd been together for half of my life. And he had been having an affair for approximately two to two and a half years when I finally like was hit in the face with the reality that that's what was going on. But we'd been together for half my life and there were a lot of things that still kind of worked in our relationship that we really like, enjoy each other's company. We have the same sense of humor. So obviously that was devastating and humiliating and I was totally pissed. And I wasn't going to stay. I mean, there was no question for me, like I was out. That was it. I wasn't interested in trying to work it out. But I was devastated at the loss of the relationship, my marriage, like what my dreams, what I thought was going to be. We had gotten married very young. There were a lot of things that still fit together. We had a very amicable divorce despite the circumstances and we're very close today. And for me, that's what worked out because there were still things that like we still enjoyed together, we could still hang out together. We are still able to celebrate holidays together. And that was in the long term the vision that I had for me and for my kids because I knew that it was possible. That was not at all TH's experience.

Beverly Price: Okay. TH, tell us more.

T.H. Irwin: So, when Jessica found out, I mean that was when she first started grieving. The other thing that Jessica also struggled with was her identity. It was always Darren and Jessica. Like who is she if she's not with Darren? And so that was another… yeah, definitely for me, the cheating set me free. The cheating isn't what ended my marriage. It's what started the rest of my life. I was really unhappy in my marriage for at least that I remember and I'm aware of now, looking back four years. At least four years. We had terrible communication at best, if you even want to say we communicated because we didn't. And things were just assumed. And I was also married to someone who's legitimately a narcissist. And looking back now I see so much. It was a slow burn and all of that. But the affair was my hallelujah. That was my get out of jail free card. And I was out. I was so grateful that I got the phone call that day and I told her that she saved my life. This is the woman he was with and is still with now today, which is fine. She can have him. I mean I'm good. So, when Jessica and I were supporting each other it's hard to support friends who are going through hard times no matter what it is. And so our advice to people really is, it doesn't matter if you're not matched up exactly with your feelings, but if you can be a good listener for your friends, it doesn't matter if you're not matched up.

I mean, even though we got divorced at the same time, we had very different relationships with our exes. My divorce was four years and in the scheme of things, hers was a hot minute over a dining room table with a bunch of tissues. And we were still able to support one another because people want to be heard. I don't have to agree with her feelings and her perspective, and she surely doesn't have to agree with mine. But knowing that someone is listening to you, you're not crazy and you're not alone, that's ultimately how our different divorces and different marriages and different relationships with our exes still kept us together as friends. It’s really being able to be heard, supported and not judged.

Many people feel divorce is a death sentence, but with the right support and guidance you can move through the process with knowledge, skills and confidence. It can also be a time of growth and progress. As a divorce and empowerment coach for over 25 years, I'm an invaluable member of your divorce team. I help you understand and navigate the process, come to terms with your emotions, avoid costly mistakes, learn skills to help you negotiate, find your true voice and create an empowered life post-divorce. If you are intrigued and want to learn more, schedule a free consultation with me at herempowereddivorce.com. And now let's get back to the show.

Beverly Price: Well, what you went through support some of the statistics that I've heard of about narcissism and being married to a narcissist that the divorce can take on average eight to 10 years because of the nature of your personality disorder and usually be very, very expensive. Yeah.

T.H. Irwin: Yeah, it was all of that. And, and I know that you've also been through… I mean you are quite the champion of your own life despite being knocked down multiple, multiple, multiple, multiple times,

Beverly Price: Oh, come on.

T.H. Irwin: And so we're really proud to be here with you, Beverly. You really are a really exceptional. I was going to say bouncer back, but you're just like you just keep going. You just keep going. And that's really the really amazing.

Beverly Price: I'm the energizer.

T.H. Irwin: But it's not easy. And I don't say casually because it's really not easy.

Beverly Price: Yeah. I think with my multiple divorces as everybody knows, it was really interesting to compare them because some of them were easy, some of them were a relief, but the hardest one was with my kids. Not so much from the logistical legal part, but more the emotional and then how you manage life afterwards. So I can totally agree with you guys then. So if somebody wanted to ask you, I love this absolute question and that is, what are the things you wish you had known about divorce that you know now that you didn't know then?

Jessica Klingbaum: I feel like we grew up in the era of like the war of the Roses and Kramer versus Kramer and that was the vision that I had of like what divorce meant and what it looked like. I don't know that I would've done things really much differently. I feel like the way that I got divorced worked out for me, my personality and how I wanted to kind of live my life. But I wish I knew that going out to get a lawyer is not necessarily the correct first step. And I think that that's everyone's knee jerk reaction is like, I gotta get a lawyer. And I think that what you need to do is you need to figure out what type of divorce is going to work best for you. Are you going to mediate? Are you going to

Hair & Makeup don’t have to be complicated. The right products & amounts boost how you look, how others see you, and how you feel about yourself.

In this episode, Scarlett De Bease, a Personal Image Consultant, joins us on the show as we talk all about Hair & Make-Up. She expounds on why wearing good makeup boosts your confidence, why you need to minimize the heaviness of your makeup, choose the right colors to wear depending on your skin tone, and a nice tip for women who don’t like foundation.

Additionally, she advises studying the ingredients to get quality brands, makeup removal tips, minimum products to start with, as well as hair products & tricks to boost your image!

Tune in for more insights!

Episode Highlights/Timestamps

[01:50] About today’s guest, “Scarlett.”

[03:13] Why wearing makeup makes a difference

[07:57] Why women have a tough time deciding what kind of makeup and color to wear

[11:05] Face primer versus eye primer

[11:38] Key tip for any woman wearing makeup and doesn’t like foundation

[13:10] Advice for pale white people wearing makeup

[15:14] Are drugstores brands better or worse than department stores brands or plastic surgeon quality brands

[17:20] Best mascara that Scarlett would recommend

[18:36] Makeup removal tips

[19:33] Minimum makeup products to start with

[22:04] Hair products, tips & tricks

Quotes

●     “If you get makeup done at a beauty counter in a stall, their goal is not to teach you how to apply makeup. Their goal is to sell you the makeup. Get a makeup artist who can teach you.”

●     “Every woman who says I don't care is lying to herself and us because everybody loves a compliment, and you will only get them when you show you take good care of yourself.”

 "If you are experiencing any form of domestic violence and abuse, do not leave your abuser without the help of skilled Domestic Violence professionals such as those on the US hotline at 800-799-7233 or those at your local shelter. The most dangerous time in an abused woman's life is when she leaves her abuser."

Connect with Scarlett De Bease

Website: https://scarlettimage.com/

Email: [email protected]

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scarlettimage/

Connect with Beverly Price, the Podcast Host & Divorce & Empowerment Coach

●     Website - www.herempowereddivorce.com

●     Email - [email protected]

●     Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/herempowereddivorce/

●     Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/beverlyprice365/

●     Facebook Group for Women: Women’s Divorce and Empowerment Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/divorcerecovery

●     Instagram - www.instagram.com/her_empowered_divorce

●     LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/beverly-price/

●     Meetup Group for Women - www.meetup.com/womens-divorce-and-empowerment-group

●     Schedule a private consultation: https://Beverly-Price.as.me/Consultation

SUBSCRIBE TO THE HER EMPOWERED DIVORCE PODCAST

●     Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@herempowereddivorce/

●     Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/her-empowered-divorce/id1635143315 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7kIcMXrj1tIWBOmaXBBn1U

If you liked this episode, please don’t forget to leave us a review, subscribe, and share this podcast!

****************************************

About Host, Beverly Price:

Beverly Price, a certified Divorce and Empowerment coach, combines divorce and empowerment coaching to provide education, support, and insight to guide women through the divorce process and conquer its emotional, technical, financial, and logistical challenges.

 Her coaching stresses self-awareness, conflict resolution, communication skills, organization, and clarity. She provides one-on-one custom-designed coaching to help women through the ups and downs and grow from self-doubt to self-love quicker, with less pain and more knowledge than she did.

 Other episodes of the Her Empowered Divorce podcast and the Divorce Expert Series, information about Beverly’s coaching, blogs, and more can be found at https://www.herempowereddivorce.com.

 Sign up for a free consultation with Beverly to find someone who can educate, advocate and guide you through all phases of divorce so you can reach an empowered and happy new life! Click on the link https://Beverly-Price.as.me/Consultation Don’t go it alone!

 A Warm Shoutout To Our Amazing Sponsor:

SOBERLINK

As parents, we often have gut feelings when something just isn’t right. 

This can be especially true in co-parenting arrangements where one parent is struggling with addiction. 

If you’re co-parenting with an ex-spouse who abuses alcohol, Soberlink can help. 

Soberlink’s alcohol monitoring system is the most convenient, reliable, and reasonable way for a parent to provide evidence that they are not drinking during parenting time. 

The system’s real-time alerts, facial recognition, and tamper detection ensure the integrity of each test, so you can be confident your kids are with a sober parent. 

With Soberlink, judges rest assured that your child is safe, attorneys get court-admissible evidence of sobriety, and your kids are able to maintain healthy relationships with BOTH parents. 

To sign up and get $50 off your device, visit www.soberlink.com/empowered 

Divorce is a challenging experience for everyone, but an expert's advice makes the situation much easier.

In this episode, Christina Djordjevich, a divorce expert, shares valuable tips to help you on your divorce journey. Christina is a Family Law Attorney at Djordjevich Law and Mediation, providing strategic, focused and solution-oriented representation in family law matters.

 In the session, she expounds on the three main divorce options available (litigation, mediation & collaborative law) and the pros & cons of each approach. She also talks about finding an attorney experienced in your niche through referrals, state bar websites, or interviewing one or more attorneys to see if they’re a good fit.

Moreover, we delve into the power of being informed, knowing your rights & obligations in the divorce, the importance of a financial advisor & three actionable takeaways in your divorce process. 

Episode Highlights/ Timestamps

[01:26] Three processes available to handle a divorce case

[05:04] Distinction between collaborative law & mediation

[07:22] The pros & cons of litigation

[11:00] Pros & cons of the mediation process

[15:00] Pros & cons of collaborative law

[17:54] What happens when there is a disqualification in collaborative law

[22:41] Finding a specific attorney/expert in your niche based on how you need your case to proceed

[29:00] Importance of being informed and being an advocate for yourself in your divorce case

[34:54] Why you need a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst

[36:55] Three actionable takeaways from the episode

Quotes

●     “Website is almost the new business card these days. It’s the first stop for information and a great place to start.”

●     “Get a therapist. There are so many things that come from the divorce process.”

 "If you are experiencing any form of domestic violence and abuse, do not leave your abuser without the help of skilled Domestic Violence professionals such as those on the US hotline at 800-799-7233 or those at your local shelter. The most dangerous time in an abused woman's life is when she leaves her abuser."

Connect with Christina

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christina-djordjevich-142b3a22/

Website: https://cdjfamilylaw.com/

Connect with Beverly Price, the Podcast Host & Divorce & Empowerment Coach

●     Website - www.herempowereddivorce.com

●     Email - [email protected]

●     Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/herempowereddivorce/

●     Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/beverlyprice365/

●     Facebook Group for Women: Women’s Divorce and Empowerment Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/divorcerecovery

●     Instagram - www.instagram.com/her_empowered_divorce

●     LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/beverly-price/

●     Meetup Group for Women - www.meetup.com/womens-divorce-and-empowerment-group

●     Schedule a private consultation: https://Beverly-Price.as.me/Consultation

SUBSCRIBE TO THE HER EMPOWERED DIVORCE PODCAST

●     Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@herempowereddivorce/

●     Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/her-empowered-divorce/id1635143315

●     Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7kIcMXrj1tIWBOmaXBBn1U

If you liked this episode, please don’t forget to leave us a review, subscribe, and share this podcast!

****************************************

About Host, Beverly Price:

Beverly Price, a certified Divorce and Empowerment coach, combines divorce and empowerment coaching to provide education, support, and insight to guide women through the divorce process and conquer its emotional, technical, financial, and logistical challenges.

Her coaching stresses self-awareness, conflict resolution, communication skills, organization, and clarity. She provides one-on-one custom-designed coaching to help women through the ups and downs and grow from self-doubt to self-love quicker, with less pain and more knowledge than she did.

Other episodes of the Her Empowered Divorce podcast and the Divorce Expert Series, information about Beverly’s coaching, blogs, and more can be found at https://www.herempowereddivorce.com.

Sign up for a free consultation with Beverly to find someone who can educate, advocate and guide you through all phases of divorce so you can reach an empowered and happy new life! Click on the link https://Beverly-Price.as.me/Consultation  Don’t go it alone!

 A Warm Shoutout To Our Amazing Sponsor:

SOBERLINK

As parents, we often have gut feelings when something just isn’t right. 

This can be especially true in co-parenting arrangements where one parent is struggling with addiction. 

If you’re co-parenting with an ex-spouse who abuses alcohol, Soberlink can help. 

Soberlink’s alcohol monitoring system is the most convenient, reliable, and reasonable way for a parent to provide evidence that they are not drinking during parenting time. 

The system’s real-time alerts, facial recognition, and tamper detection ensure the integrity of each test, so you can be confident your kids are with a sober parent. 

With Soberlink, judges rest assured that your child is safe, attorneys get court-admissible evidence of sobriety, and your kids are able to maintain healthy relationships with BOTH parents. 

To sign up and get $50 off your device, visit www.soberlink.com/empowered 

During a divorce, selling your home is not only a financial asset but also an emotional asset.

In this episode, Andrea Shink joins us on the show to expound on why you need a CDRE when selling your home in your divorce. Andrea is a Certified Divorce Real Estate Professional (CDRE), helping  Homeowners and Family Law Attorneys Navigate Real Estate and Divorce.

In the session, Andrea talks about the difference between a regular purchase and selling your home after divorce, how the rise in interest rates has affected divorcing parties, and actionable tips when doing a buy-out. Moreover, she expounds on staying on the mortgage versus staying on the title as well as why you need to get pre-approved upfront to find out if selling the house is an option.

Ultimately, she delves into precautions you need to take when selling your home in a divorce as well as a powerful parting shot on the divorce process.

Tune in for more insights!

Episode Highlights/ Timestamps

[01:05] Introducing today’s guest “Andrea Shink.”

[02:34] The difference between a regular purchase and selling a home during a divorce

[04:25] How the radical market interest rates impact divorcing parties

[06:08] Actionable tips when doing a buy-out

[08:10] How women can find a certified divorce real estate professional

[09:21] Recommendations for anyone who doesn’t have a CRDE in their area

[10:17] Issues that come to play both emotionally & financially in the divorce thought process

[17:27] Precautions to take in the sale of your home when divorcing

[20:19] Other divorce experts that Andrea works with on the divorce process

[27:05] Andrea’s advice on the divorce process

Quotes

●     “You would rather have that heart-break upfront before you spend $20,000 litigating and still find out you don’t qualify and have to sell it.”

●     “Don’t stop before the miracle happens.”

Connect with Andrea ShInk

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreashink/

Website: https://andreashink.com/

Connect with Beverly Price, the Podcast Host & Divorce & Empowerment Coach

 "If you are experiencing any form of domestic violence and abuse, do not leave your abuser without the help of skilled Domestic Violence professionals such as those on the US hotline at 800-799-7233 or those at your local shelter. The most dangerous time in an abused woman's life is when she leaves her abuser."

●     Website - www.herempowereddivorce.com

●     Email - [email protected]

●     Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/herempowereddivorce/

●     Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/beverlyprice365/

●     Facebook Group for Women: Women’s Divorce and Empowerment Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/divorcerecovery

●     Instagram - www.instagram.com/her_empowered_divorce

●     LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/beverly-price/

●     Meetup Group for Women - www.meetup.com/womens-divorce-and-empowerment-group

●     Schedule a private consultation: https://Beverly-Price.as.me/Consultation

SUBSCRIBE TO THE HER EMPOWERED DIVORCE PODCAST

●     Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@herempowereddivorce/

●     Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/her-empowered-divorce/id1635143315 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7kIcMXrj1tIWBOmaXBBn1U

If you liked this episode, please don’t forget to leave us a review, subscribe, and share this podcast!

****************************************

About Host, Beverly Price:

Beverly Price, a certified Divorce and Empowerment coach, combines divorce and empowerment coaching to provide education, support, and insight to guide women through the divorce process and conquer its emotional, technical, financial, and logistical challenges.

 Her coaching stresses self-awareness, conflict resolution, communication skills, organization, and clarity. She provides one-on-one custom-designed coaching to help women through the ups and downs and grow from self-doubt to self-love quicker, with less pain and more knowledge than she did.

 Other episodes of the Her Empowered Divorce podcast and the Divorce Expert Series, information about Beverly’s coaching, blogs, and more can be found at https://www.herempowereddivorce.com.

 Sign up for a free consultation with Beverly to find someone who can educate, advocate and guide you through all phases of divorce so you can reach an empowered and happy new life! Click on the link https://Beverly-Price.as.me/Consultation Don’t go it alone!

 A Warm Shoutout To Our Amazing Sponsor:

SOBERLINK

As parents, we often have gut feelings when something just isn’t right. 

This can be especially true in co-parenting arrangements where one parent is struggling with addiction. 

If you’re co-parenting with an ex-spouse who abuses alcohol, Soberlink can help. 

Soberlink’s alcohol monitoring system is the most convenient, reliable, and reasonable way for a parent to provide evidence that they are not drinking during parenting time. 

The system’s real-time alerts, facial recognition, and tamper detection ensure the integrity of each test, so you can be confident your kids are with a sober parent. 

With Soberlink, judges rest assured that your child is safe, attorneys get court-admissible evidence of sobriety, and your kids are able to maintain healthy relationships with BOTH parents. 

To sign up and get $50 off your device, visit www.soberlink.com/empowered 

Money is a complex & emotionally charged topic & seeking professional advice could help you avoid common pitfalls and devise more effective strategies for managing your wealth.

In this episode, Ana Munro joins the show to share her incredible expertise on the importance of financial planning with divorce. Ana is a certified financial planner® and Morgan Stanley Wealth Management senior vice president.

In the session, Ana differentiates between wealth and financial planning, the importance of divorced women focusing on their long-term financial picture, as well as getting organized by taking an inventory of all critical statements & documents as the first step to getting your financial picture in good order. Besides, she suggests breaking down financial planning into manageable steps and seeking the help of a third-party professional to avoid common pitfalls.

Ultimately, Ana shares critical questions while interviewing your financial planner and actionable takeaways for women going through a divorce, including opening an interim account for family expenses, checking credit reports, & reviewing estate planning documents.

Episode Highlights/ Timestamps

[01:33] Introducing today’s guest, “Ana.”

[02:14] Ana’s Journey into Financial Planning

[03:51] The difference between Wealth Planning & Financial Planning

[05:38] Importance of Financial/Wealth Planning in Divorce

[06:37] First step for divorced/pre-divorced women is to get their financial pictures in good order

[09:05] Advise women who don’t know anything about their finances when the husband manages everything

[13:44] Making changes or recommendations in case your financial plan is inadequate to sustain you in the long run

[15:15] Questions to ask your financial advisor/planner when doing financial planning

[20:18] Women empowerment in undertaking financial management roles

[21:43] Actionable takeaways critical to women in their financial planning journey

[26:30] A positive challenge to all women out there in financial planning

Quotes

●     When you have a pre-divorce financial plan, you feel more in control & less overwhelmed because everything is in front of them, and it’s much easier to make changes post-divorce.

●     “If you are in a situation where you're uncomfortable with something because you don't understand, it's not gonna get any better unless you ask.”

●     “The more prepared you are, the better you will make those financial decisions.”

 "If you are experiencing any form of domestic violence and abuse, do not leave your abuser without the help of skilled Domestic Violence professionals such as those on the US hotline at 800-799-7233 or those at your local shelter. The most dangerous time in an abused woman's life is when she leaves her abuser."

Connect with Ana Munro, CFP®

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anamunro/

Website:https://advisor.morganstanley.com/ana.munro

Connect with Beverly Price, the Podcast Host & Divorce & Empowerment Coach

●     Website - www.herempowereddivorce.com

●     Email - [email protected]

●     Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/herempowereddivorce/

●     Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/beverlyprice365/

●     Facebook Group for Women: Women’s Divorce and Empowerment Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/divorcerecovery

●     Instagram - www.instagram.com/her_empowered_divorce

●     LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/beverly-price/

●     Meetup Group for Women - www.meetup.com/womens-divorce-and-empowerment-group

●     Schedule a private consultation: https://Beverly-Price.as.me/Consultation

SUBSCRIBE TO THE HER EMPOWERED DIVORCE PODCAST

●     Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@herempowereddivorce/

●     Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/her-empowered-divorce/id1635143315 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7kIcMXrj1tIWBOmaXBBn1U

If you liked this episode, please don’t forget to leave us a review, subscribe, and share this podcast!

****************************************

About Host, Beverly Price:

Beverly Price, a certified Divorce and Empowerment coach, combines divorce and empowerment coaching to provide education, support, and insight to guide women through the divorce process and conquer its emotional, technical, financial, and logistical challenges.

 Her coaching stresses self-awareness, conflict resolution, communication skills, organization, and clarity. She provides one-on-one custom-designed coaching to help women through the ups and downs and grow from self-doubt to self-love quicker, with less pain and more knowledge than she did.

Other episodes of the Her Empowered Divorce podcast and the Divorce Expert Series, information about Beverly’s coaching, blogs, and more can be found at https://www.herempowereddivorce.com.

Sign up for a free consultation with Beverly to find someone who can educate, advocate and guide you through all phases of divorce so you can reach an empowered and happy new life! Click on the link https://Beverly-Price.as.me/Consultation  Don’t go it alone!

A Warm Shoutout To Our Amazing Sponsor:

SOBERLINK

As parents, we often have gut feelings when something just isn’t right. 

This can be especially true in co-parenting arrangements where one parent is struggling with addiction. 

If you’re co-parenting with an ex-spouse who abuses alcohol, Soberlink can help. 

Soberlink’s alcohol monitoring system is the most convenient, reliable, and reasonable way for a parent to provide evidence that they are not drinking during parenting time. 

The system’s real-time alerts, facial recognition, and tamper detection ensure the integrity of each test, so you can be confident your kids are with a sober parent. 

With Soberlink, judges rest assured that your child is safe, attorneys get court-admissible evidence of sobriety, and your kids are able to maintain healthy relationships with BOTH parents. 

To sign up and get $50 off your device, visit www.soberlink.com/empowered 

One in four marriages of couples over age 50 end in divorce, with women doing most of the initiating of the splits.

In this episode, Linda Hershman joins Beverly Price on the show as we delve deep into Gray Divorce. Linda is a 30 years licensed marriage & family therapist, the Author of the Gray Divorce book, and a frequent national and international conferences speaker on Gray Divorce.

In the session, Linda expounds on what Gray Divorce is, the reasons for the increased divorce rate for people over 50 years, and why infidelity is not the primary reason for most divorces but rather unaddressed underlying issues for years. Moreover, she delves into some upsides of late-life divorces, such as self-actualization, divorce effects on your children as well as the best time to go ahead with your divorce.

Ultimately, Linda shares three actionable steps to helping women on their divorce journey loving their children more than their Ex-spouse, being involved in their own life & seeking professional support.

 Tune in for more insights!

 Episode Highlights/ Timestamps

 [02:01] Introducing today’s guest “Linda Hershman.”

[04:25] Why divorce over the age of 50 is doubling or even tripling despite the decrease in the general divorce rate

[06:11] Reasons for divorce in later life

[08:37] Who is divorcing over 50 and why

[11:11] Why infidelity is not the main reason marriages break up

[16:26] Upsides of late-life divorce

[20:29] What older women fear most while divorcing or contemplating divorce

[22:38] Divorce effects on children

[29:11]Three actionable tips to women to help women on their divorce journey and recovery afterwards

 Quotes

●     “Infidelity is not the main reason marriages break up.”

●     “Relationships function in patterns, and each person is responsible for what they bring in & change their pattern.”

  "If you are experiencing any form of domestic violence and abuse, do not leave your abuser without the help of skilled Domestic Violence professionals such as those on the US hotline at 800-799-7233 or those at your local shelter. The most dangerous time in an abused woman's life is when she leaves her abuser."

 Mentioned Book

-Gray Divorce: Everything You Need to Know About Later-Life Breakups by Linda Hershman 

Connect With Linda Hershman

Website: https://lindahershman.com

Facebook: Gray Divorce Book

Twitter: @graydivorcebook

Linkedin: Linda Hershman

Instagram: lindahershmanlmft

Connect with Beverly Price, the Podcast Host & Divorce & Empowerment Coach

●     Website - www.herempowereddivorce.com

●     Email - [email protected]

●     Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/herempowereddivorce/

●     Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/beverlyprice365/

●     Facebook Group for Women: Women’s Divorce and Empowerment Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/divorcerecovery

●     Instagram - www.instagram.com/her_empowered_divorce

●     LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/beverly-price/

●     Meetup Group for Women - www.meetup.com/womens-divorce-and-empowerment-group

●     Schedule a private consultation: https://Beverly-Price.as.me/Consultation

SUBSCRIBE TO THE HER EMPOWERED DIVORCE PODCAST

●     Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@herempowereddivorce/

●     Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/her-empowered-divorce/id1635143315 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7kIcMXrj1tIWBOmaXBBn1U

If you liked this episode, please don’t forget to leave us a review, subscribe, and share this podcast!

****************************************

About Host, Beverly Price:

Beverly Price, a certified Divorce and Empowerment coach, combines divorce and empowerment coaching to provide education, support, and insight to guide women through the divorce process and conquer its emotional, technical, financial, and logistical challenges.

 Her coaching stresses self-awareness, conflict resolution, communication skills, organization, and clarity. She provides one-on-one custom-designed coaching to help women through the ups and downs and grow from self-doubt to self-love quicker, with less pain and more knowledge than she did.

 Other episodes of the Her Empowered Divorce podcast and the Divorce Expert Series, information about Beverly’s coaching, blogs, and more can be found at https://www.herempowereddivorce.com.

Sign up for a free consultation with Beverly to find someone who can educate, advocate and guide you through all phases of divorce so you can reach an empowered and happy new life! Click on the link https://Beverly-Price.as.me/Consultation Don’t go it alone!

A Warm Shoutout To Our Amazing Sponsor:

SOBERLINK

As parents, we often have gut feelings when something just isn’t right. 

This can be especially true in co-parenting arrangements where one parent is struggling with addiction. 

If you’re co-parenting with an ex-spouse who abuses alcohol, Soberlink can help. 

Soberlink’s alcohol monitoring system is the most convenient, reliable, and reasonable way for a parent to provide evidence that they are not drinking during parenting time. 

The system’s real-time alerts, facial recognition, and tamper detection ensure the integrity of each test, so you can be confident your kids are with a sober parent. 

With Soberlink, judges rest assured that your child is safe, attorneys get court-admissible evidence of sobriety, and your kids are able to maintain healthy relationships with BOTH parents. 

To sign up and get $50 off your device, visit www.soberlink.com/empowered  

THE BEST DIVORCE POSSIBLE WITH GABRIELLE HARTLEY, MEDIATOR AND AUTHOR - EPISODE 81

In this episode of the Her Empowered Divorce Expert Series podcast, Beverly Price interviews Gabrielle Hartley, Esq. about what is needed to have the Best Divorce Possible and about her new book, The Secret to Getting Along.

Key Interview Questions that Beverly Asked Gabrielle:

1.    You wrote a book entitled Your power to have the best divorce possible--Author of “The Secret to Getting Along and Why It's Easier than You Think” Here’s a link to purchase this incredible book. https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Getting-Along-Easier-Think/dp/172825891X

2.    What inspired you to write the book?

Your power to have the best divorce possible-

2.   Once a person has made the decision to reach out to a family lawyer and has scheduled their initial consultation with the lawyer, what should they do to ensure they get the most out of their consultation?

3.   What tips do you have for women to help maintain their sanity during what can seem a never ending and frustrating process?

4.   Why is taking of your emotional health during a divorce so important?

5.   What is the best way to make sure that you continue to take care of yourself during the divorce process

6.What do you mean by the magic of dancing with conflict How can I keep my divorce from spinning out of control what if I have to go to court Is a private divorce possible

7.What 3 actionable takeaways can you give women that they can do to enhance their journey from beginning to end and recovery from the divorce process

You have agency and accountability and using them wisely is your best source of power slowest is fastest (hard to remember in this age of immediacy) Ask hard questions (of yourself) --knowing your why will set you free

a.   Assemble your team of professionals to help you- lawyer, coach/therapist, CPA, financial planner, valuation experts

b.   Practice self-care

c.   Take baby steps

ABOUT Gabrielle Hartley Esq.:

Gabrielle Hartley is a divorce attorney and nationally recognized online mediator. She co chair of the American Bar Association Mediation Committee and former New York State Court Attorney. She is expert at resolving entrenched conflict and can be heard across media outlets sharing her wisdom and insights.

Gabrielle has authored two books including Better Apart, The Radically Positive Way to Separate and The Secret to Getting Along which comes out next week. Check out her TEDx on this same topic on youtube.

CONNECT WITH Gabrielle –

Website: https://gabriellehartley.com/

Gabrielle’s Blog - voted #1 in New York! https://gabriellehartley.com/better-apart-blog/

Facebook https://www.facebook.com/gabriellehartleyesq/

Linked In https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielle-hartley-esq-0b43139/

https://www.instagram.com/gabriellehartleyesq/

To Purchase her book: The Secret to Getting Along https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Getting-Along-Easier-Think/dp/172825891X

More links for sharing: https://gabriellehartley.com/moreinfo/

https://gabriellehartley.com/thesecrettogettingalong/

CONNECT WITH PODCAST HOST AND DIVORCE AND EMPOWERMENT COACH, BEVERLY PRICE:

• Website - www.herempowereddivorce.com
• Email - [email protected]
• Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/herempowereddivorce/
• Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/beverlyprice365/
• Facebook Group for Women: Women’s Divorce and Empowerment Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/divorcerecovery
• Instagram - www.instagram.com/her_empowered_divorce
• LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/beverly-price/
• Meetup Group for Women - www.meetup.com/womens-divorce-and-empowerment-group
• Schedule a private consultation: https://Beverly-Price.as.me/Consultation

SUBSCRIBE TO THE HER EMPOWERED DIVORCE PODCAST

• Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@herempowereddivorce/
• Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/her-empowered-divorce/id1635143315 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7kIcMXrj1tIWBOmaXBBn1U

If you liked this episode, please don’t forget to leave us a review, subscribe, and share this podcast!

****************************************

About Host, Beverly Price:

 Beverly Price, certified Divorce and Empowerment coach, combines divorce and empowerment coaching to provide education, support, and insight to guide women along the entire divorce process, and to conquer its emotional, technical, financial and logistical challenges.

Her coaching stresses self-awareness, conflict resolution, communication skills, organization, and clarity. She provides one-on-one custom designed coaching to help women through the ups and downs and grow from self-doubt to self-love quicker, with less pain, more knowledge than she did.

Other episodes of the Her Empowered Divorce podcast and the Divorce Expert Series, information about Beverly’s coaching, blogs and more can be found at https://www.herempowereddivorce.com

Sign up for a free consultation with Beverly to find out there is someone who can educate, advocate and guide you through all phases of divorce so you can reach an empowered and happy new life! Click on the link https://Beverly-Price.as.me/Consultation

 A Warm Shoutout To Our Amazing Sponsor:

SOBERLINK

As parents, we often have gut feelings when something just isn’t right. 

This can be especially true in co-parenting arrangements where one parent is struggling with addiction. 

If you’re co-parenting with an ex-spouse who abuses alcohol, Soberlink can help. 

Soberlink’s alcohol monitoring system is the most convenient, reliable, and reasonable way for a parent to provide evidence that they are not drinking during parenting time. 

The system’s real-time alerts, facial recognition, and tamper detection ensure the integrity of each test, so you can be confident your kids are with a sober parent. 

With Soberlink, judges rest assured that your child is safe, attorneys get court-admissible evidence of sobriety, and your kids are able to maintain healthy relationships with BOTH parents. 

To sign up and get $50 off your device, visit www.soberlink.com/empowered