Michael Pollan’s books, like The Botany of Desire, The Omnivore’s Dilemma and In Defense of Food: An Eater’s Manifesto – and Cooked: A Natural History of Transformation, the latter now also a successful Netflix series – have strongly influenced contemporary ideas about agriculture, nature, nutrition and ethics. Now, with How To Change Your Mind, he's turned his eye to new research around psychedelic drugs – and discovers how they can help us learn more about human consciousness, as well as the benefits they may offer in the treatment of many illnesses. Listen in as this icon of science journalism joins Christine Kenneally for a conversation about his most personal work yet.