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Kevin DeMars estimates he’s been homeless ten times in his 58 years. I met with him in his apartment in Rutland, Vermont and we talked about why he’s been homeless so many times, and what it was like to live in the woods. It’s a difficult and raw conversation at times, and Kevin struggles with some mental health issues that he’s been working through in counseling for years. But he talks very clearly about what it’s like to be someone who can’t always live comfortably in the world of people.

Thanks

Big thanks to Scott Carrier for all his help.

Thanks to Joyce Cloutier of Veterans, Inc. for introducing me to Kevin and for all the great work she does.

Thanks to Freesound for the clock sounds I used in this show.