Chris Carlin, in for Greeny, discussing how people are making too much of Aaron Rodgers' leadership...and the team he left behind in Green Bay is about to enter their own darkness retreat. ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter joins the show with the inside scoop on the stars holding out in NFL training camp, expectations for Jordan Love and Justin Fields, and the Bears signing Yannick Ngakoue. We wrap up the hour talking about Clemson's future in CFB.

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