“Water is more than a resource; it’s a relative,” says water professor and protector Kelsey Leonard on the Climate Curious podcast, recorded live at TED 2025. In conversation with co-host Maryam Pasha, Kelsey shares how she’s working to ensure water gets the same legal rights as humans – legal “personhood”. Because even though water is essential to life, it still remains relatively unprotected under the law.

Watch Kelsey’s TED Talk, Why lakes and rivers should have the same rights as humans.

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