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Can your pension quietly sabotage your climate and supply chain goals without you ever knowing?

What if one of the biggest risks to resilience isn’t logistics or energy, but where your money sleeps at night?

In this episode, I’m joined by Scott Ryan, founder and CEO of Investature, to unpack a part of the sustainability conversation that’s usually ignored. Finance. Specifically, the financial supply chain hidden inside pensions, retirement plans, and long-term investments. And why it matters now, when climate risk, stranded assets, and resilience are colliding.

We dig into why pensions, with their 20–30 year horizons, are paradoxically funding the very risks they’re meant to protect against. You’ll hear how financial supply chains can dwarf Scope 1, 2, and even Scope 3 emissions, and why most sustainability strategies still fail to account for them. We break down why reallocating even 1% of global capital could materially close the climate finance gap, without sacrificing returns or fiduciary responsibility.

You might be surprised to learn why bonds, not equities, may be the most powerful lever for climate action, how “double bottom line” investing actually works in practice, and why education and incentives matter more than regulation alone. Scott also explains why ESG has become a distraction, and how clearer, data-driven financial choices can drive real behaviour change across organisations and supply chains.

If you care about supply chain resilience, sustainability, risk, and visibility, this conversation connects dots most people never see. Quietly. Uncomfortably. Usefully.

🎙️ Listen now to hear how Scott Ryan and Investature are reframing money as one of the most powerful tools for resilient, sustainable supply chains.

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