Humans have been fascinated by elephants since forever. But until a few decades ago, we didn’t know the most basic things about them, like how they choose a mate, or how their society is organized. In this episode, Ilya meets Cynthia Moss, a former magazine journalist who has contributed more than anyone else to our knowledge of the largest land mammals.

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This episode was produced by Andrey Borzenko, Ilya Marritz, Danil Astapov, Anastasia Medvedeva and Lika Kremer. Our sound editors are Ildar Fattakhov and Alexei Vorobyov.