As the college admissions scandal emphasizes once again the gulf between the wealthy and the rest of us, and the deficit skyrockets due to Trump’s GOP tax cuts for the rich and corporations, here’s my January 2010 conversation with Richard Wilkinson & Kate Pickett about their groundbreaking book, The Spirit Level. Based on 30 years of research, it makes clear that the more unequal a society is, the worse it is for everybody – rich and poor alike.