The fashion equivalent of the Super Bowl—or maybe the recent FIFA Club World Cup final?—may just have been the auction of Jane Birkin’s original Hermès Birkin bag last Thursday. On the pod this week to discuss all things Birkin, the origins of French girl style, and how looking effortless often takes real effort is writer and friend of the pod Marisa Meltzer, whose new book, It Girl: The Life and Legacy of Jane Birkin, is out in October.

But first, earlier in the episode, Sam Sussman, Vogue’s global director of social, drops in to share what it was like to attend the Birkin bag auction in person—and explain (unrelatedly) why she couldn’t stop watching this season of Love Island. (Hint: we love Amaya Papaya!)