In this deeply honest and emotional conversation, Jill & Derick Dillard sit down with Jinger & Jeremy for a long-awaited catch-up, opening up about marriage, grief, faith, burnout, parenting, and life after major transitions.

From navigating law school, public service, and overwhelming work schedules, to walking through pregnancy loss, family pressure, and seasons of deep emotional strain, Jill and Derick share what life really looks like behind the scenes and how they knew something had to change.

This episode explores:

- What led Derick to step away from his demanding legal career

- How grief and loss affected their marriage and family

- The realities of burnout, emotional overload, and daily survival

- Why faith became their anchor during the hardest moments

- What intentional parenting looks like in this season

- How public pressure and private pain intersect

- What it means to rebuild with hope, clarity, and conviction

- Jill also shares powerful insight on leaning on Scripture during grief, choosing family over performance, and learning to redefine strength when everything feels like it’s falling apart.

This is a raw, thoughtful conversation about resilience, marriage, calling, and trusting God when the path forward isn’t clear.

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00:00:00 - Introduction

00:01:20 - Discussion on Family Relationships

00:02:44 - Chat About Travel to Arkansas for Christmas

00:03:50 - Thrift Shopping in California vs Arkansas

00:04:32 - Check-in with Jill and Derick

00:08:10 - Discussion on Law Career and Family

00:11:54 - Motivation for Law Career

00:13:17 - Navigating Law School as a Family

00:15:55 - Impact of COVID-19 and Moving

00:16:26 - Balancing Work and Family Life

00:17:21 - Passing the Bar and Entering Workforce

00:18:18 - Challenges in Public Service

00:20:53 - Struggles with Long Commute

00:21:38 - The Pressure and Sacrifice in Law Career

00:24:16 - Decision to Step Away from Job

00:24:39 - The Impact of Losing a Child

00:28:27 - Reflections on Marriage and Family Goals

00:30:15 - The Importance of Therapy

00:31:05 - Challenges with Therapy and Work-Life Balance

00:32:33 - Reflection on Marriage and Personal Growth

00:33:09 - Public Life and Personal Trials

00:34:46 - Finding Strength in Faith

00:39:03 - Looking Towards the Future

00:41:48 - Changing Perspectives in Marriage

00:43:47 - Appreciating the Small Annoyances

00:45:38 - Perspective and Personal Growth

00:46:50 - Reflection on Regret and Relationships

00:47:57 - Living with Integrity and Principle

00:48:06 - The Role of Christianity in Life

00:48:42 - The Importance of Principled Love

00:49:08 - Closing Remarks and Future Conversations

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