In the book, "These Walls Between Us", we find these words: "...in the mid-1950's a young African American teenager named Mary White traveled north from Virginia to work for my family as a live-in domestic worker during our summer vacation. Mary was fifteen, I was twelve. As the Black "help" and the privileged white daughter, we were not slated for friendship." Thus begins the journey of understanding and rejection of racism by author Wendy Sanford, who grew up white, upper-class and wealthy. We talk with Ms. Sanford about her journey and why her book is an invitation for "white readers to join me in exploring our relationship to white supremacy culture".