Joining Playbook’s Eugene Daniels on this episode of Deep Dive are two pollsters who know how to find the signal in what has been a very noisy election. John Anzalone aka “Anzo,” was Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama’s pollster. And Greg Strimple is a veteran of John McCain, Chris Christie, Rick Perry, and John Cornyn’s campaigns. Together, they dissect why this election’s polling is so close despite all the crazy news; who the swing voters are that both Trump and Harris are spending millions of dollars to reach; and if ticket-splitting is about to have a resurgence. 

Eugene Daniels is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.

John Anzalone is the founder of Impact Research.

Greg Strimple is the founder and president of GS Strategy Group.

Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio. 

Alex Keeney is a senior producer for POLITICO audio.

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