Medicine With The Medals

How Psychedelics Can Move Beyond 12-Step Programs For Addiction


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What if the 12 steps helped save your life, but eventually, you outgrew them? In this moving episode, Gillian Lepisto shares her bold journey beyond traditional recovery frameworks and into the world of sacred medicine, intuitive healing, and spiritual integration.


Listeners will explore the deeper layers of trauma, embodiment, and devotion that unfold after sobriety, and how tools like Kambo, microdosing, and ceremony are opening new frontiers in post-recovery healing.

What You’ll Learn:

  • Why Gillian transitioned from AA to psychedelic healing work

  • How sacred plant medicines helped her wean off psychiatric prescriptions

  • The emotional and spiritual process of shedding old identities after addiction

  • What Kambo is, how it works, and why it’s becoming a sought-after energetic cleanse

  • The role of ceremony, intuition, and mentorship in trauma-informed recovery

Episode Highlights:

  • 04:01 – From underground parties to profound loss: Gillian’s early journey

  • 09:40 – The “grand sponsor” who introduced psychedelics to the recovery community

  • 13:22 – Gillian’s DMT initiation and awakening in a crystal city

  • 19:48 – Tapering medication with the help of psilocybin and intuitive listening

  • 25:39 – Why Gillian left AA: spiritual expansion, not rebellion

  • 33:15 – Kambo explained: frog medicine for energetic detox and shadow release

  • 38:42 – Honoring grief, identity death, and sacred service

  • 44:19 – Reclaiming trust in yourself after the structure of recovery dissolves

Meet the Guest:

Gillian Lepisto is a medicine woman, mentor, and mother whose personal journey from addiction to sovereignty bridges traditional sobriety and sacred psychedelics. Her work is rooted in trauma healing, intuitive development, and community-led ceremonial integration.

Tools, Frameworks, and Strategies Mentioned:

  • Sacred Integration Circles

  • Cambo (frog medicine)

  • Mama Dose™ Microdosing Protocol

  • Ceremony-based Fourth and Fifth Step

  • Devotional mentorship models

Closing Insight:

“I’m not afraid of myself anymore. I trust myself. And I know the medicine lives in me now.” – Gillian Lepisto


This episode is an invitation for anyone who’s ever asked, “What comes after sobriety?” to explore a deeper path of spiritual and cellular healing.


For the best in microdosing products and education, visit http://mamadose.com


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