The nature of war is changing. $10 million tanks in Ukraine are being disabled by $10,000 drones — and many cutting-edge battlefield technologies today come from private companies rather than governments.

Few people know more about harnessing commercial tech for the military than Raj Shah, who led the Pentagon’s Defense Innovation Unit before founding his own venture capital firm. Now he’s on the board of the NATO Innovation Fund. On the show today, he speaks with POLITICO deputy tech editor Daniella Cheslow to talk about how to translate leading technology to the battlefield.

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