In today’s episode, I have special guests who have overcome the scarcity mindset to start alternative investing. We’re joined by my clients Michelle and Joel from Minnesota and they are here to talk about their journey as they find new hope for financial freedom. Michelle and Joel are clients with Money Ripples, and they’ve done a bang-up job, even on leveraging their whole life with infinite banking to double their investment earning power. Watch now to learn about their life, what led them to Money Ripples, and how they’re doing today! Key Talking Points of the Episode [00:00] Introduction [02:26] Who are Michelle and Joe Ostrom? [03:30] Balancing life in general [04:04] What was money like for Michelle and Joe while growing up? [07:29] Praying to God about their situation [10:03] What was it like working with Chris Miles? [11:00] The change in mindset from content from Chris [12:55] Meeting Ron Phillips at one of his events [13:48] What Michelle and Joe have done since 2019 [15:16] What did the numbers tell Michelle and Joe? [17:01] Dealing with emotions and mindset  [18:05] What I pray for [18:41] Going to Utah from Minnesota to meet Chris Quotables “We got a lot of people that are homxeschoolers in this group, it’s amazing how many more people that I’ve talked to are becoming homeschoolers as well, and trying to balance that.” “You had several calls with us before we actually signed papers with you, and you were very patient with the scarcity and fear that was very, very real.” “That’s what I always tell people - it always requires faith, no matter how logical it seems to make the decision, there’s still that emotional part.”