Last week I had a great conversation with my old friend Andrew Whaley about his project Calix and creating spaces for the sake of relationships with the deeply unchurched and post-Church. His vision sparked some serious conversation and questions about how this project works when it hits closer to home.

In this episode, we dive into the messy project of living as Christians with a real heart for everyone—in a culture that can be pretty antagonistic to our very existence. How do we balance reaching out and protecting our parish and family? Where do we draw this line when it comes to our kids? What does that look like practically in real time? We dive into all that this week!