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If you're within ten years of retirement (early or traditional age) or just want to get a head start on going from being a saver to a spender, this episode is for you. Decumulation without drama—that's the mission as retirement pros Dana Anspach (Sensible Money) and Fritz Gilbert (The Retirement Manifesto) join the show to turn "build-your-own paycheck" into a repeatable process. Dana lays out why drawdown is a hundred small decisions, not one big leap; and Fritz brings in the field notes. Together they demystify:
The big takeaway: document the plan, automate the paycheck, and give yourself permission to enjoy the "go-go" years—because money's job is to fund a life, not gather dust.
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🌐The Retirement Manifesto
📘 Keys to a Successful Retirement
🌐 Sensible Money
Sensible Money YouTube
📕 Control Your Retirement Destiny
📗 Social Security Sense
📄 Dana's breakdown of OBBBA
📄 Retirement Red Zone: Rethinking Your Investment Strategy
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Hard & Soft Sides of Retirement | Fritz Gilbert | 019
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If you're within ten years of retirement (early or traditional age) or just want to get a head start on going from being a saver to a spender, this episode is for you. Decumulation without drama—that's the mission as retirement pros Dana Anspach (Sensible Money) and Fritz Gilbert (The Retirement Manifesto) join the show to turn "build-your-own paycheck" into a repeatable process. Dana lays out why drawdown is a hundred small decisions, not one big leap; and Fritz brings in the field notes. Together they demystify:
The big takeaway: document the plan, automate the paycheck, and give yourself permission to enjoy the "go-go" years—because money's job is to fund a life, not gather dust.
📩 Sign up for our newsletter (NEW!)
🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website
🔗Connect with us
☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"
🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question
===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS===
📈 Boldin (formerly NewRetirement): Retirement planning software that's like having a financial advisor at your fingertips. You can get started with the free version or choose the premium option (PlannerPlus) and get a 14-day free trial. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link to get started: Go.boldin.com/catchingup
For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners
RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.)
Charity: Freedom for Fido
🌐The Retirement Manifesto
📘 Keys to a Successful Retirement
🌐 Sensible Money
Sensible Money YouTube
📕 Control Your Retirement Destiny
📗 Social Security Sense
📄 Dana's breakdown of OBBBA
📄 Retirement Red Zone: Rethinking Your Investment Strategy
⏰ 'Catching Up to FI' Episodes
Hard & Soft Sides of Retirement | Fritz Gilbert | 019
If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!
⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

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