For this edition of Intelligence Squared, we join Alannah Weston, Chairman of Selfridges Group, for her podcast How to Lead a Sustainable Business, in which she speaks to thought leaders who are reinventing their sectors for a sustainable and just future.

In this week’s special episode, Alannah and her guest explore the possibility of rethinking race.

Emma Dabiri is an academic, broadcaster and author of two highly acclaimed books on the subject: Don’t Touch My Hair and What White People Can Do Next: From Allyship to Coalition. She discusses why ideas about race are cultural constructs and how understanding that race was invented to create and justify more racism could help us bring about an end to racial discrimination.

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