Rob Goodman was a congressional staffer in the US and as a rising authoritarian movement brought America to the brink of a coup, he did what all Americans threaten to do when they are fed up with their country: he moved to Canada. Now an Assistant Professor in the department of Politics and Public Administration at Toronto Metropolitan University, he has an urgent warning for his adopted country.

Jesse sits down with Rob to talk about his new book, “Not Here: Why American Democracy Is Eroding and How Canada Can Protect Itself.”

Host: Jesse Brown 

Credits: Tristan Capacchione (Audio Editor and Technical Producer), Bruce Thorson (Senior Producer), Annette Ejiofor (Managing Editor), Karyn Pugliese (Editor-in-Chief)

Further Reading: 

• Not Here: Why American Democracy Is Eroding and How Canada Can Protect Itself, by Rob Goodman — Simon & Schuster

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