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In this episode of The Leadership Standard, host Jamie Mason Cohen sits down with Michael Bungay Stanier—bestselling author, Rhodes Scholar, and founder of Box of Crayons—to explore how better conversations can transform leadership and workplace relationships.
With global recognition for his work on curiosity-led leadership, Michael shares practical strategies from his latest book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, and reflects on how vulnerability, clarity, and connection can reshape how we lead and collaborate.
Michael Bungay Stanier shares his own leadership journey, from being rejected as a Rhodes Scholar to building one of the world’s most impactful coaching companies. He also discusses how TEC Canada played a key role in amplifying the leadership of Box of Crayons’ CEO and why creating “Best Possible Relationships” is the most powerful move a leader can make in 2025 and beyond.
Through storytelling, wit, and years of experience training managers across the globe, Michael Bungay Stanier offers valuable takeaways for business owners, executives, and team leaders who want to lead with more intention and curiosity. His insights will resonate with anyone looking to elevate their communication, culture, and impact.
Why your success depends on the quality of your working relationships.
How to have a “Keystone Conversation” that builds trust from the start.
When to repair a working relationship—and when to let it go.
Why staying curious longer is a leadership superpower in 2025.
Listen now and learn how better conversations can lead to stronger teams, better results, and more human leadership..
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In this episode of The Leadership Standard, host Jamie Mason Cohen sits down with Michael Bungay Stanier—bestselling author, Rhodes Scholar, and founder of Box of Crayons—to explore how better conversations can transform leadership and workplace relationships.
With global recognition for his work on curiosity-led leadership, Michael shares practical strategies from his latest book, How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, and reflects on how vulnerability, clarity, and connection can reshape how we lead and collaborate.
Michael Bungay Stanier shares his own leadership journey, from being rejected as a Rhodes Scholar to building one of the world’s most impactful coaching companies. He also discusses how TEC Canada played a key role in amplifying the leadership of Box of Crayons’ CEO and why creating “Best Possible Relationships” is the most powerful move a leader can make in 2025 and beyond.
Through storytelling, wit, and years of experience training managers across the globe, Michael Bungay Stanier offers valuable takeaways for business owners, executives, and team leaders who want to lead with more intention and curiosity. His insights will resonate with anyone looking to elevate their communication, culture, and impact.
Why your success depends on the quality of your working relationships.
How to have a “Keystone Conversation” that builds trust from the start.
When to repair a working relationship—and when to let it go.
Why staying curious longer is a leadership superpower in 2025.
Listen now and learn how better conversations can lead to stronger teams, better results, and more human leadership..

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