HTMX creator and Montana State University instructor Carson Gross talks to Richard about why HTMX moved from version 2 straight to version 4, API boundaries in library design, jQuery, and how the field of Computer Science education is now changing from the perspective of someone who's been teaching it for years.

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- HTMX - https://htmx.org/

- Version 2 → Version 4 announcement https://htmx.org/essays/the-fetchening/

- Shoutout to other htmx contributors: https://github.com/bencroker https://github.com/benpate https://github.com/alexpetros https://github.com/Telroshan https://github.com/MichaelWest22

- Carson's hardware course - https://github.com/msu/csci-366-spring2025/blob/main/SYLLABUS.md

- Big Sky Dev Conf - https://bigskydevconf.com/

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