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  • From Fear to Love: Finding a Deeper Judaism Through Chassidus | Esther Malka Groner

    Growing up in a Satmar community, a new world opened up for Esther Malka when her father began a secret, late-night study of Tanya when she was a young girl. Through being exposed to chassidic teachings, she discovered a way of relating to God and Jewish life that was shaped not just by rules or fear, but by joy and connection.


    That sense of connection also informs the way she parents. How do we give our children Jewish values while making room for them to become themselves? Esther shares what she’s learned about guiding children with love and how being called to something beyond ourselves can draw out strengths we didn’t know we had.


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    Esther Malka Groner grew up in a Satmar community before her family joined Chabad and moved to Israel, where she studied education. An educator with over 35 years’ experience, she directs a childcare center and co-founded Chabad Glen Eira with her husband. Contact her here: [email protected]


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    TIMESTAMPS:00:00 — Introduction02:14 — Esther introduces herself and her path to Melbourne04:19 — Growing up in a Satmar community05:02 — Her father begins studying Tanya08:28 — Esther discovers her father’s Chabad books10:34 — Making Chassidus more accessible beyond community walls14:27 — Esther’s early experience of rule based Judaism18:30 — Moving from fear of God toward love and joy21:09 — Staying connected to Jewish identity while serving others22:02 — Welcoming people and finding purpose in community27:26 — Purpose as a source of growth and motivation29:20 — Raising children with both guidance and love32:09 — Letting children follow their own relationship with God34:24 — Respect, privacy, and warmth between siblings37:42 — Evolving as a parent as children’s needs change40:57 — Rapid fire45:03 — Episode outro

    46 min
  • How Did We Get Here? The History Behind What We Practice | Sheva Deren

    How did Jewish life come to take the shape we know today? In this conversation, Sheva Deren, a Jewish history teacher in Melbourne, Australia, talks about the upheavals, choices, and debates that shaped Jewish practice.


    We explore the Second Temple era, the development of the Jewish calendar and oral law, and the ways halacha (Jewish law) has responded to changing realities. Who gets to decide how Judaism evolves? What is the balance between protecting inherited practice and finding creative responses to new circumstances? And why do certain visible practices, like modesty, receive so much cultural attention in modern Jewish life?


    This conversation explores what our ancestors have given us, how questions and disagreements help make the halachic system a living, breathing thing, and why knowing the history behind familiar practices can make them feel more alive.


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    A few factual clarifications from the episode: The reference to the sage who calculated the calendar should be Hillel HaSheni, not Hillel HaZaken. The rabbi who debated Saadia Gaon was Aaron ben Meir, in 924 CE. The tefillah directed to the angels is called Machnisei Rachamim.


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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 Episode introduction

    01:41 Sheva’s path into teaching

    03:11 Leaving one chapter and building a new life in Melbourne

    06:12 The freedom to try a different path

    07:44 Why the Second Temple era fascinates Sheva

    11:02 Competing visions of Jewish continuity

    12:15 Why rabbinic Judaism became the path most Jews followed

    14:14 Jewish life in Babylonia and the question of the new moon

    18:09 Calendar disagreements and the practice of Pesach

    20:15 How Jewish history helps students connect to their identity

    21:47 How Halacha encounters new realities, including IVF

    24:45 A halachic responsum on keeping Pesach under persecution in Spain

    28:31 Disagreement over prayer and the role of angels

    31:50 The Ramban, debate, and the role of questions

    34:07 Are we obsessed with modesty?

    39:02 Safety and the history of Jewish poetry

    41:25 Is there a correlation between emancipation and assimilation?

    44:11 Why Jewish history matters to Jewish identity

    45:54 Sheva’s message to the women who came before her

    47:02 Closing message to listeners

    48 min
  • Why Do Mothers Feel Like They’re Never Doing Enough? | Miri Lipskier

    Motherhood is deeply spiritual work, yet many mothers feel inadequate, as if their contribution doesn’t count by the world’s standards of success, or as if motherhood falls outside the spiritual work Judaism so often celebrates.


    Today, with guest Miri Lipskier, we explore Jewish and Chassidic teachings on motherhood, including the biblical prophetess Chana’s choice to remain home with her son and the Lubavitcher Rebbe’s teachings on the dignity and sanctity of the private act of motherhood. We explore what the Kohanim's physical service in the Temple can teach us about domestic work, how spiritual meaning can get lost in the daily demands of caring for children, and how mothers can make room for prayer, learning, and support without guilt.



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    Miri Lipskier is a wife, mother and shlucha in Chabad Youth of Melbourne, Australia, overseeing educational and community programs for children, teens, and young women. She directs Bnos Chabad, CGI day camps and high school overnight camps, and YLIV, a volunteer organisation of 200 people. With over 20 years of teaching experience, Miri is passionate about mentorship, meaningful relationships, and empowering every individual to grow into the best version of themselves. Contact: [email protected]


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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 “I’m a Mother”: The Feeling of Inadequacy

    00:33 A Jewish Perspective on Motherhood

    02:33 Meet Miri Lipskier 04:18 Motherhood and Communal Work

    06:38 The Lubavitcher Rebbe on Womanhood and Motherhood

    08:38 The Spiritual Value of Raising Children

    12:18 Chana’s Choice to Stay Home

    15:00 Why Chana’s Story Matters Even If You Aren't a Stay at Home Mother

    17:20 Motherhood and Society’s Measures of Success

    21:08 Can Any Choice Protect Us from Regret?

    22:22 The Physical Demands of Motherhood

    24:00 A Morning in the Life of a Mother

    26:00 Finding G-dliness in the Physical

    28:28 The Kohanim and the Holiness of Domestic Work

    31:09 When Caregiving Feels Spiritually Disconnecting

    33:25 Making Room for Prayer and Learning

    36:18 Spiritual Nourishment Without Guilt

    38:00 Finding Inspiration Through Motherhood

    41:20 Asking for Practical Support

    42:03 Building a Joyful Jewish Home Together

    43:37 Celebrating Jewish Holidays With Creativity

    45:40 Using Music to Shape the Home

    46:10 Household Help as an Investment in the Family Unit

    47:00 Creating a Personal Home for Hashem

    48:51 “I Already Sent Someone”: Recognizing Your Own Strength

    50:54 Closing Reflections

    52 min
  • Pain and Suffering Are Not the Same | Chaya Cowen

    How can we experience crushing pain without experiencing it as suffering? Again and again, life brings us to a crossroads: will we hold our pain by ourselves, or let G-d meet us in it?


    In this conversation, Chaya Cowen reflects on grief, personal experiences of devastation, and the leap of allowing G-d into moments shaped by self-blame and anger toward Him. She shares how the loss of her first pregnancy, which ended in stillbirth, shaped her relationship with Hashem, and offers a moving reading of Eicha as a journey through self-blame, anger, and the search for connection.


    We also talk about how to pass Judaism on with honesty and joy: welcoming children’s questions, meeting the feelings beneath them, and modeling what it looks like to balance exploration with commitment.


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    Chaya Cowen is a Sacks Scholar, the Head of Learning & Teaching at Beth Rivkah Ladies College in Melbourne, and oversees a comprehensive high school curriculum and teaches courses in Tanach, Jewish History, and Jewish Philosophy. She has a passion for education with a focus on meaningful, empowered and personalized Jewish learning, and explores the interface between Judaism and the wider world. Chaya resides in Melbourne, Australia with her husband and four children. She can be reached at [email protected]


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    TIMESTAMPS:00:00 The difference between pain and suffering

    00:15 Welcome and the episode’s central question

    03:35 Meet Chaya Cowen, educator and mother

    05:13 Choosing a relationship with Hashem through life’s challenges

    08:57 Fertility, loss, and facing what we can’t control

    11:26 Reading Eicha as a journey through grief

    17:31 Why we blame ourselves after tragedy

    18:37 What happens when anger turns toward G-d

    21:16 The leap of letting G-d into our pain

    23:02 Drawing strength from ancestors and Jewish stories

    24:42 The story of Zusha and a different view of suffering

    26:04 Finding a way to express and process grief

    28:01 How to acknowledge pain without being alone in it

    30:58 How to support someone who is grieving

    34:23 The lasting mark of pain and asking it for a blessing

    36:14 Helping children build a relationship with Hashem

    37:11 The educator as a “midwife” to Torah

    41:10 Welcoming students’ questions without judgment

    45:12 Balancing exploration with commitment

    46:28 Modeling beauty and meaning in Jewish practice

    49:34 Teaching Torah with joy and continued learning

    52:25 Finding a personal path into Jewish life

    54:33 Bringing joy, Shabbos, and questions into the home

    55:21 Chaya’s closing message

    57 min
  • I Imagined Myself in the Sukkah | Shoshana Judelman

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    The sukkah is called the "shade of faith," but what happens when we sit inside it and feel nothing? What if we are entering Sukkos feeling more tapped into the uncertainty of life's winds, than the certainty of G-d's hug?


    Today, we explore Sukkos as a full-body experience of faith, absorbed simply by showing up to be there. Shoshana shares how she envisioned herself in the Sukkah's embrace when she was curled up inside the radiation machine for cancer treatment, and teaches the deeper Torah behind how we can carry the Sukkah's lingering touch through the inevitable joy, uncertainty, illness and hiddenness that we experience in daily life.


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    Shoshana Judelman is passionate about learning and growing through Chassidus. She is the founder of Nekaveh Lecha women’s seminary. She gives shiurim in Chassidus for women across Israel and in Midreshet Rachel V’Chaya in Jerusalem. Her shiurim can be found on Spotify and SoundCloud (Shiurim with Shoshana Judelman). Shoshana is also a guide at Yad Vashem and leads journeys to Poland and other countries for JRoots. She can be contacted at [email protected]


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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 — Introduction

    01:48 — Welcome to Human & Holy

    02:24 — Why Sukkos is Shoshana’s favorite holiday

    03:25 — Entering the sukkah and reenacting the Clouds of Glory

    05:17 — How lockdown changed the way Shoshana’s family celebrates Sukkos

    06:19 — Intellectual versus embodied knowing

    08:27 — Why do we celebrate Sukkos after Yom Kippur?

    09:09 — The Golden Calf and the departure of the Clouds of Glory

    10:21 — Yom Kippur, forgiveness and returning to relationship with Hashem

    11:39 — The deeper embrace that follows rupture and repair

    13:09 — Sukkos as a bridge between Yom Kippur and ordinary life

    15:50 — A mitzvah rooted in presence rather than constant action

    16:36 — Learning to see life through the lens of Hashem’s reality

    18:00 — Building a reservoir of emunah for a random Tuesday in February

    20:11 — The storm that destroyed Shoshana’s sukkah

    22:42 — How the community rebuilt the sukkah within hours

    24:00 — What a temporary structure teaches us about uncertainty

    25:22 — The sukkah as the shelter of trust and haven of faith

    27:33 — When it feels as though the Clouds of Glory have holes

    28:02 — Life as a spiritual training ground

    30:25 — Can painful experiences really be understood as expressions of love?

    31:31 — Turning the sukkah into an “emunah gas station”

    33:19 — Receiving a breast cancer diagnosis shortly before Sukkos

    35:53 — Carrying the sukkah’s embrace into treatment

    37:11 — Did Shoshana feel Hashem’s presence during radiation?

    38:31 — The different “flavors” of Hashem in celebration and hiddenness

    39:30 — “I don’t like it, but I know that this is also You”

    40:55 — Practical ways to experience the sukkah more deeply

    41:25 — The spiritual meaning of the arba minim

    43:34 — Drawing embodied knowledge into the heart

    44:28 — Bringing Divine love into our eyes, speech, posture and emotions

    47:11 — How deeper Torah transforms our experience of a mitzvah

    48:54 — Slowing down and using imagination while shaking the lulav

    50:04 — Spending more time in the sukkah without pressuring ourselves to feel

    52:11 — Shoshana’s message: believe that you can grow and change

    53:05 — Growth is happening even when we cannot see it

    54:02 — Carrying hope into the new year

    55:00 — Closing and ways to support Human & Holy

    56 min
  • Yom Kippur: Let Yourself Be Carried | Sara Rosenstein, Rivka Fenton and Rosie Gurevitch

    A short excerpt from this week's Human & Holy pre-Yom Kippur morning in New Haven, CT. A poem, a conversation with Sara Rosenstein about returning to Hashem after years of disconnection, original music by Rivka Fenton about finding safety in leaning into God, and personal notes on being carried by God by our host, Rosie Gurevitch.


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    28 min
  • Teshuvah and the God We Think We Know | Rus Devorah Wallen

    A conversation about Teshuvah through the dual lens of clinical attachment theory and Torah sources. We explore why perfect attunement in any relationship is a myth, and how the rupture and repair cycle of Teshuvah is actually what deepens our connections, rather than threatening it. Rus Devorah walks through how our early attachment styles get unconsciously projected onto our relationship with God, and offers concrete practices for moving toward a more secure, honest connection with Hashem during this season of return.


    Rus Devorah Wallen is the founder and owner of Torah Therapeutics. She is an accomplished musician, performer, social worker, psychotherapist, administrative consultant, lecturer, and community leader whose work bridges psychology and Torah wisdom. Find out more at toratherapeutics.com.


    Article referenced in this episode: https://substack.com/@toratherapeutics/p-212834537


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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00:00 ---- "Back to the future," not back to who you were

    00:00:18 ---- Host intro

    00:01:33 ---- Rupture, Repair, and the God We Think We Know

    00:02:42 ---- The myth of perfect attunement

    00:04:46 ---- Why rupture & repair creates a more stabilized relationship

    00:05:07 ---- Attachment

    00:07:55 ---- Projecting childhood attachment templates onto God

    00:09:44 ---- Is it trauma,or is it truth?

    00:10:49 ---- The HALTS acronym

    00:13:12 ---- "The prisoner can't free himself from his own cell"

    00:15:20 ---- Mapping secure / anxious / avoidant attachment onto our relationship with God

    00:15:50 ---- What secure attachment looks like relationally

    00:19:30 ---- Bringing the secure-attachment framework into relationship with Hashem

    00:20:19 ---- Avoidant attachment with God

    00:23:09 ---- Moving from an unhealthy attachment pattern toward a more secure connection with God

    00:24:23 ---- Step one: learning to love yourself unconditionally

    00:25:26 ---- The shofar's sounds (tekiah, shevarim, teruah) as a metaphor for inner emotional release

    00:27:12 ---- "Back to the future" — becoming fuller, not returning to a former self

    00:30:35 ---- Teshuvah as "a descent for the sake of an ascent"

    00:34:12 ---- The difference between reunion and real repair — Rambam's stages of teshuvah

    00:41:31 --- Controlled stress as models for growth

    00:42:44 ---- Starting with the smallest possible action

    00:43:48 ---- Practical example: rebuilding belief in God one tiny step at a time

    00:45:22 ---- Finding an outside perspective to guide the process

    00:45:48 ---- Secure attachment with God makes room for doubt

    00:47:00 ---- Coming to God honestly, without whitewashing pain

    00:48:31 ---- Needing secure human relationships first

    00:52:13 ---- Reconciling a loving, all-seeing God with the felt experience of suffering

    00:52:59 ---- Her stroke story; trusting there was a purpose in crisis

    00:55:26 ---- Teshuvah creates something new, not a return to a childhood faith

    00:56:52 ---- Holding childlike wonder within an adult relationship with God

    00:58:23 ---- Using imagination and visualization to access sweetness

    01:00:20 ---- What if your childhood has no sweet memories to draw from?

    01:03:26 ---- Building everyday resilience through imaginal rehearsal

    01:04:16 ---- Bringing our full, imperfect selves to God

    01:06:40 ---- Avinu Malkeinu: God as both King and Father

    01:07:25 ---- Closing question

    01:08:01 ---- Host's outro

    1 hr 9 min
  • Where Are You? A Rosh Hashanah Reckoning with Choice

    What is Rosh Hashanah, the birthday of the world, inviting us to? In this recording of our Human & Holy Rosh Hashanah event in LA, we sit with powerful Torah sources to look at the opportunity available right now to co-create a new year with G-d.


    This episode explores why Rosh Hashanah is a relationship story, this time of year as a renewal of our capacity for choice, why being fully seen by Hashem can fill us with safety rather than dread, and why the mitzvah of the shofar has no single "right" sound, because the sound it's supposed to produce is whatever it produces in you.


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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00–01:44 Capacity for choice & waking up from sleep

    01:45–03:56 Breath and the Shofar

    03:57–07:25 Moving to a shorter line

    07:26–07:53 Judgment or compassion?

    07:54–12:09 Being fully seen by Hashem

    12:19–14:07 What if you have a fear of being seen?

    14:08–16:38 Teshuvah as ongoing relational repair

    16:40–20:13 Hour by hour of the first day of creation

    20:14–24:22 Ayeka: where are you?

    24:41–29:36 What if.I bring no intention to Shofar?

    29:37–30:16 Only the individual can say "You are my King"

    32:31–35:15 What does the Shofar's sound produce in you?

    36 min
  • Hashem Is In with Mimi Hecht, Rivki Rabinowitz, Chani Lisbon and ChayaLeah Sufrin

    So...how are we doing?


    We're ringing in the new Jewish year with a Jewish State of the Union: where have we been this last year and where are we headed?


    Today, I sit down with four people who each have a finger on a different pulse of Jewish life. ChayaLeah Sufrin, executive director of Beach Hillel and host of the Ask a Jew podcast, walks through the year's defining global stories, reflects on what this moment is asking of the Jewish people and gives us some predictions for the year ahead.


    Comedian Chani Lisbon joins for a lighter, faster cultural check-in: why comedians are having a moment, what the whole Jewish world got obsessed with this year, and a rapid-fire round of "in or out" on everything from Pesach programs to WhatsApp statuses.


    Rivki Rabinowitz, a beauty influencer and interior designer whose work has been featured in Architectural Digest, The Wall Street Journal and more, gives modest fashion the real trend report it deserves: what's replacing slip skirts, her one unforgivable fashion sin, and how she holds beauty and depth as the same thing, not opposites.


    Closing with a brilliant bang is writer and culture shaper Mimi Hecht's reflections on language: why the term "Hashem" is having a comeback, why words like "healing" and "capacity" have worn thin, the return of words like service and collective, and why specificity is rising in our culture's choice of words.


    Underneath every conversation, one thread kept showing up: this is the year where every Jew just wants to feel like a Yid.


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    TIMESTAMPS:


    00:00:00 Segment 1— ChayaLeah Sufrin: The Jewish Year in Review

    00:03:31 The five biggest Jewish stories of the year

    00:07:35 How to stay informed without living in fear

    00:12:54 What is this moment asking of the Jewish people?

    00:13:36 A worry people should let go of

    00:16:16 What Israel needs from Diaspora Jews right now and vice versa

    00:21:18 ChayaLeah's predictions for the new year

    00:24:44 Young Jews seeking authentic, substantial Judaism


    00:27:00 Segment 2 — Chani Lisbon: A Cultural State of the Union

    00:27:59 Why comedians are having a cultural moment right now

    00:29:16 Top cultural moment of the year

    00:30:06 What everyone got obsessed with this year

    00:32:43 Hot take: Why Chani doesn't want a "trendy" rabbi

    00:36:15 Rapid-fire "In or Out": pickleball, WhatsApp status, and group tours to Kazakhstan

    00:43:11 What people are actually craving


    00:45:00 Segment 3 — Rivki Rabinowitz: The Modest Fashion Report

    00:46:43 How social media made modest fashion mainstream and immediate

    00:52:27 The current "modest girl uniform"

    00:52:46 Fashion predictions for the year ahead

    00:55:46 Modest makeovers by profile

    00:57:01 Rapid-fire

    01:00:12 Can aesthetics and depth coexist?

    01:04:58 What modesty invites her into creatively


    01:09:01 Segment 4: Mimi Hecht on the State of words

    01:09:10 Returning to the word "Hashem"

    01:15:02 Why we reached for substitute language in the first place

    01:18:18 Choosing specific Jewish language as an act of confidence

    01:19:34 Why is our culture tired of the word "healing"?

    01:26:04 A generational shift in language from self-focus back toward giving

    01:32:11 Rapid-fire "Replace the Word"

    01:36:29 Defining Chassidic terms in plain language: neshama, mitzvah, and kelipah

    01:45:02 Why the term Avodas Hashem makes Mimi emotional

    01:46:55 Using words honestly


    01:48:43 Host's Outro


    1 hr 55 min
  • The Moment that Stuck | Rachel Jacobs: Why Numbers Don't Measure Success

    Human & Holy is on a season break for the rest of the summer! During this time, we're airing your favorite moments from the past few seasons. This episode is an impactful moment extracted from the original conversation. Watch the episode in full here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VuF9NwQt8o


    Rebbetzin Rachel Jacobs built a Jewish community in Birmingham, UK from the ground up: a Chabad house, a Torah Tots nursery, a Hebrew school, and a role as the only Jewish studies teacher in a school of 160 students. In this excerpt, we explore what happens when you feel called to build something and no one shows up, and how she learned to measure success by relationships instead of numbers. Rachel shares the Torah teaching that convinced her to start a Hebrew school with just six kids, and what it felt like years later watching those same kids read fluently from the Torah at their own bar and bat mitzvahs. A conversation about faith, community building, Jewish education, and redefining what success actually means.


    Rachel Jacobs, originally from Los Angeles, California, currently serves as Rebbetzin of Singers Hill Synagogue in Birmingham, England. She is also the Educational Director of the Torah Tots nursery school, the Cheder, and the Jewish studies program at the local King David Primary School. Over the past 20 years, Rachel has gained recognition as an inspiring Jewish speaker, with a particular focus on women’s issues and marriage. Her warmth, charisma, and insightful teachings have touched the lives of Jewish women across the United States and Europe. You can contact Rachel via [email protected] and on instagram @Rachelcjacobs.


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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 — The ache of being called to something and hearing crickets back

    00:23 — Rachel on the early, hardest days of building a Chabad house

    04:03 — The real question underneath it all: are we measuring success by numbers?

    04:21 — Starting Torah Tots with six kids: "affecting children from a young age is infinite"

    05:41 — The reality now: down to two kids, and showing up anyway

    05:53 — Called into King David School as the lone Jewish voice for 11 students among 160

    07:35 — Leading through bureaucracy and red tape: "you have to go back to your why"

    09:23 — Redefining the metric of success: deep impact on one person over reach to many

    09:50 — Rachel's husband and the minyan he shows up for every night, no matter the count

    12:53 — The Torah source that named her calling: Matos Masei and the tribes who chose to build

    12:54 — Starting Cheder Club with five boys and one girl

    14:56 — Years later: those same kids reading fluently from the Torah at their bar and bat mitzvahs

    16:04 — "It's the positivity. People want to be part of success."

    16:14 — Outro

    17 min

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