There has not been a single conviction for human trafficking in Ireland. Not one. We are joined in the tortoise shack by CEO of The Immigration Council of Ireland, Brian Killoran, to talk about how a country that was recently identified as a key location for this heinous crime does not appear to be taking it seriously. Brian had some slight audio issues, but do listen, this is an important subject and we all need to be aware of the difference between human smuggling and trafficking and where both are most pervasive.

We also discuss the new government and their commitment to end Direct Provision and the steps that Brian would like to see that can make this happen. The Immigrant Council do important work and this is a subject we'll be returning to soon.

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