The Business Brew

Hunter Hopcroft - In Defense of REITS (and Marty Whitman!)


Listen Later

Hunter Hopcroft, Managing Director, Portfolio Solutions at Armada ETF Advisors, stops by The Business Brew to primarily discuss REITs. Hunter is quite a thinker and the conversation veers into other parts of markets such as AI, how the economy is changing and more. You can find Hunter's writing here: https://www.lewisenterprises.blog/


Bill pinged Hunter after someone (on the Twitter machine, so you know it's factual) made a comment that REITs are inherently bad investment vehicles. We hope this episode is informative and realistic about the investment vehicles. You may learn:


  • The vast difference between market cap weighted public REIT allocations and private sector real estate allocations
  • Why public market REITs have less leverage than their private peers
  • A theory about why Blackstone bought $AIRC and what the true cap rate was
  • Whether dividends are better than academia believes

  • As always, we hope you enjoy the show. Thank you for your time!

    PS. Reach out if you are interested in sponsoring the show. You can contact Bill at [email protected].


    Detailed Show Notes:

    3:00 - Hunter transitioned his career around an interest in REITs


    7:00 - Private and public markets own basically the same assets


    10:00 - How private markets create a lock in for RIAs that may help the RIAs' multiple when they sell the business


    11:00 - Negative features of REITs


    17:00 - The downside scenarios for multifamily housing


    20:30 - What can dividend growth do for a portfolio?


    27:30 - How Hunter thinks about the different REIT asset classes.


    30:00 - The difference between private real estate allocations and public market market cap weighted allocations


    41:00 - The different valuation methodologies to analyze $AIRC


    48:00 - Why are private market cap rates still healthy relative to public markets?


    52:00 - Hunter's view on markets and where they are right now


    56:00 - Some riffing on AI


    1:04:00 - In defense of Marty Whitman!




    ...more
    View all episodesView all episodes
    Download on the App Store

    The Business BrewBy Bill Brewster

    • 4.7
    • 4.7
    • 4.7
    • 4.7
    • 4.7

    4.7

    242 ratings


    More shows like The Business Brew

    View all
    We Study Billionaires - The Investor’s Podcast Network by The Investor's Podcast Network

    We Study Billionaires - The Investor’s Podcast Network

    3,375 Listeners

    The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing by The Idea Farm

    The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing

    926 Listeners

    Grant’s Current Yield Podcast by Grant's Interest Rate Observer

    Grant’s Current Yield Podcast

    670 Listeners

    Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry by Ted Seides – Allocator and Asset Management Expert

    Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

    787 Listeners

    Focused Compounding by Andrew Kuhn and Geoff Gannon

    Focused Compounding

    272 Listeners

    Chit Chat Stocks by Chit Chat Stocks

    Chit Chat Stocks

    174 Listeners

    The Acquirers Podcast by Tobias Carlisle

    The Acquirers Podcast

    303 Listeners

    Value Investing with Legends by Columbia Business School

    Value Investing with Legends

    196 Listeners

    Excess Returns by Excess Returns

    Excess Returns

    73 Listeners

    Value Hive Podcast by Brandon Beylo

    Value Hive Podcast

    89 Listeners

    The Memo by Howard Marks by Oaktree Capital Management

    The Memo by Howard Marks

    374 Listeners

    Yet Another Value Podcast by Andrew Walker

    Yet Another Value Podcast

    100 Listeners

    Business Breakdowns by Colossus | Investing & Business Podcasts

    Business Breakdowns

    337 Listeners

    Behind the Balance Sheet by Stephen Clapham, Behind the Balance Sheet

    Behind the Balance Sheet

    43 Listeners

    Forward Guidance by Blockworks

    Forward Guidance

    274 Listeners