As Susie talks about her injectables appointment later on that same day, a discussion ensues around beauty standards and its link to plastic surgery. Including the effects on women when told to "age gracefully" and the effects of others' judgment vs wanting to do it for yourself. What if people do it strictly for vanity reasons? Is the prevalence of plastic surgery in today's society any different than any other part of the beauty industry? Can plastic surgery be offensive or hurt others? These facets and more are explored in Episode 15 of What in the Shibal.

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