In this podcast episode, the hosts are discussing the possibility of selling a Tormach machine to pay off a loan for a larger machine. They weigh the pros and cons of selling the Tormach and discuss the current market value of the machine and its accessories. They also discuss the different types of machines that are available on the market and what would be the most suitable for their respective businesses. The conversation revolves around the financial aspects of running a machining business and making the right investment decisions to grow their businesses.