Pat was feeling authoritative, so Ben has no choice but get help from our heroic armed forces to reassert his sovereignty over the podcast. In other words, Ben and special guest, Harrison Hammonds teach Pat about the political philosophy of Thomas Hobbes. Thomas Hobbes was a 17th Century English philosopher/narc who argued that political power needs to be vested in and embodied by an all-powerful State, what he called the Leviathan in his eponymous masterpiece, in order for society to function smoothly and peacefully. Without this, humans exist in a Mad Max-esque State of Nature where everyone is literally murdering each other, living lives that are "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short." AKA The Five Spice Girls of the Apocalypse.