Madeline Peltz, the deputy director of rapid response at liberal watchdog group Media Matters joins The New Abnormal to talk about Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts’ new book—which includes a forward from Donald Trump’s running mate, JD Vance. Plus! A discussion with Meredith McGraw, a national correspondent at Politico, about her new book, Trump in Exile, which chronicles the former president’s retreat to Mar-a-Lago after his defeat in 2020.

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