***Trigger Warning*** Katie has some updates in regards to Pizzagate. Maybe it was real the whole time..?

Nathan says he's becoming obsessed with Megan Markle. That's going to be a future episode, for sure.

And our main topic: Nathan got obsessed with the rise and fall of Ice Spice. It's a dramatic arc, and she seems to be nowhere now.

Time Stamps:

00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter

00:52 Deep Dive into Pizzagate and Epstein Emails

19:45 Meghan Markle

30:45 Ice Spice Introduction

48:06 Drake's Influence and Industry Connections

50:41 Mainstream Success and Collaborations

01:11:40 Controversies and Downfall

LINKS:

Ice spice name origin

Daughter of early 2000’s UG rapper Joseph Gaston 

Bronx drill rapper: drill rap google definition

• B-Lovee My Everything
• Kay Flock PSA

Met prod RiotUSA in college (sophomore, he graduated, she dropped out, they started making music together 

• Dad is DJ Enuff from Hot 97, NYC hip hop radio station, where he started in 1999, and prior to that he was a road DJ for Biggie Smalls and also worked in A&R at Def Jam Records from 1999-2001

Ice began releasing music on SoundCloud in 2021

THE RIZE! 

Erica Banks’ Bussit challenge 2021

Billboard explainer

Ice Spice viral version

Ice talking about virality of Bussit challenge

Late 2022 - Munch (debut single) 

• https://youtu.be/yF-NC3eRsqc?si=2XTnfZoVmFJtVAUN

Munch goes viral, and of course who is sliding into her DM’s almost immediately after it drops? 

Drake:

DM’s:

https://fmhiphop.com/fmspotlight-ice-spice-munch-feelin-u-watch/amp/

Ice discusses

Drake plays Munch on his Sirius XM radio show Sound 42 which makes it go from viral to mega viral, and with his sign-on in late 2022 she lands a deal with Capitol Records and just shoots into the stratosphere

A LITANY OF MAINSTREAM SUCCESSES: 

• Jan 2023 releases debut EP Like..?
• Feb 2023 features on remix of Pink Pantheress’ Boy’s a Liar part 2 which peaks at #3 on BB Hip hop chart
• April 2023 features on Remix of Princess Diana with Nicki Minaj, goes to #4 BB hip hop charts
• May 26 2023 features on remix of Taylor Swift’s Karma a bonus track on the special edition of Midnights, peaks at #2 on the Hot 100
• Matt Healy had this to say about Ice Spice: video with transcript
• June 2023, releases Barbie World, again with Nicki Minaj, #7 on Hot 100

So she’s featuring a LOT and releasing EP’s and singles and stuff, but by now everybody is anticipating an album

She releases Think You the Shit (Fart) which is a dis track against another female rapper Latto with whom she’d been beefing since 2022, and it’s also a tease for her upcoming album project, Y2K, so named because Ice’s bday is Jan 1, 2000

https://youtu.be/Ou7c8Sg9YVg?si=xwi83l7pVQjLm9nf

This track did not bode well for her upcoming album project. In July 2024, she releases Y2K to “mixed reviews”, meaning mainstream publications found nice things to say while indie reviewers were like, this is NOT GOOD

Mychael Fantano review

BACKLASH AND FALLLLLL…

poop bars compilation

Even before the release of Y2K the mask, shall we say, starts slipping: 

May 2024 Baby Storme, childhood friend of Ice and also a hip hop artist of some kind, releases texts btw her and Ice: 

July 2024 she fakes a relationship with UK drill rapper Central Cee, but they fail to tell his GF Madeleine Argy

CLEOTRAPA

August 2024 Cleo opens for Ice on the US leg of the Y2K tour

April 27 2024 Baby storme tweetstorms about Ice

Cleo story (chapters)

Ice reaction

Zach Campbell - colorism (5:26) 

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