Nathan is back! And yes, somehow we also have another Vagina Update.

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TRIGGER WARNING for Child Murder

This week Tawny fills in for Nathan, and we go through the conspiracy theories online about the Lindsay Clancy case. In January 2023, Lindsay killed her three children and attempted to kill herself... But online sleuths have created a whole different scenario wherein Lindsay's husband is the real perpetrator, and Lindsay is innocent. We do not believe these theories, and we discuss what most likely took place leading up to the murders. What's at stake is whether she was in psychosis and therefore not criminally responsible.

What do you think the verdict should be?

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Despite years of controversy and public skepticism, Sherri Papini continues to defend her story in a new book and documentary. She claims that her 22-day captivity was real, even though it involved an ex-boyfriend with whom she was having an emotional affair.

Katie lays out the facts, allegations, and unanswered questions for Nathan. Can she convince him that there's more to the story than most people believe?

LINKS:

Sherri's childhood trauma: https://www.reddit.com/r/thepapinis/comments/1kzzsxc/from_perfect_wife_episode_1_discussion_of/

Sherri's interrogation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXagEvi7Puo

The Affadavit US Gov vs Sherri Papini: https://www.justice.gov/usao-edca/press-release/file/1479901/dl

Justice for Brittany Hibdon - deceased wife of Sherri's new boyfriend, Shawn: https://justiceforbrittany.org/doctor-approved-love-a-disturbing-story-of-blurred-boundaries-and-ethical-failure-in-a-california-therapy-practice/

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Well it's another true crime ep this week: Nathan finally tells us why he's obsessed with Diane Downs. She pretended to be car-jacked by a stranger who shot her three children. But it was always clear that she did it herself, and she could never keep her story straight. It's endlessly entertaining to see someone be so bad at this!

Then we look at what Oprah is saying now about her interbiew with Meghan Markle!

LINKS:

5/23/83 re-enactment footage: https://youtu.be/-sKp6KvO5Gs?si=KsIinUxWBFzHBdJm

5/21/83 Bedside interview: https://youtu.be/TJ1gRuX9QpE?si=84iKNBrLRvj9xTzf

7/5/83 Nick tape: https://youtu.be/c8m_OfatGBE?si=Pox25esPkR6JYEW_

7/18/83 Nick tape (hilarious): https://youtu.be/NeoTLvZffDI?si=MTQHngFr613DJGcm

Infamous 1984 Anne Bradley interview: https://youtu.be/XQQyc493x5A?si=WnRo3sgaAkSrwVAl

9/26/88 Oprah interview 17:30-21:36: https://youtu.be/MXgl_MHg8hA?si=pwDqpGxIzaioEtiH

84 interview/Parole hearing clip: https://youtube.com/shorts/pwF6PERFrP8?si=_OupHl-05e3H2pAr

Oprah backtracks on Harry and Meghan 15:00-19:30: https://youtu.be/B01YwteyFbo?si=tte6m45WV6i9DtzY

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Last week on Patreon, Katie read an article by Amanda Knox about a convicted murderer she once publicly advocated for, only to later come to the realization that he was probably guilty. That revelation sent us down another rabbit hole: Why did the media seem to hate Amanda Knox so much?

Join us as we untangle the media frenzy, conflicting narratives, and enduring mysteries surrounding one of the most controversial true crime cases of the modern era.

LINKS:

The Murder of Meredith Kercher Casefile Library: https://themurderofmeredithkercher.net/

Casefile Episode on Meredith Kercher: https://casefilepodcast.com/case-270-meredith-kercher/

Observe talks about Amanda's Body Language Part 1: https://youtu.be/bEkX1bkfvNg?si=01DHUw1XjMWA0xmX

And Part 2: https://youtu.be/38o4LCR7FuI?si=SxeTdeQx5xrz4xZ2

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Trigger Warning: all of our topics involve SA. What do shitty men, and JonBenét have in common?

In this episode, we explore the bizarre TikTok antics of James Franco, dissect manipulative Voice Note that went viral on TikTok, and we Katie introduces Nathan to her new favorite podcast, JonBenét Todét!

James Franco says his garage has an alien living in it

The Voice Note

CowboyBlacked reacts to Voice Note

Girl who dated the voice note guy

And her story of him

JonBenet Todet and their Nintendo 64 Theory

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We reached out to Molly for comment, but have not heard back.

As a long-time fan of Molly Mcaleer, I feel it is my right to criticize her too. She did so much, she co-founded Hello Giggles, which made another splash on social media last week. She went onto write on 2 Broke Girls, and then start her own podcast network, where some of the same Hello Giggles practices seemed to carry forward... So here's a short history of Molly, and all of her girlboss endeavors.

Jess Tholmer details what it was like at Hello Giggles: https://www.completelybooked.club/you-paid-for-this-dishing-on-hellogiggles-iii-a-response-to-sophia-rossis-substack/

Solid Listen and Troy drama post on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/comments/10771y2/podcast_drama_anyone_else_following_troy_from/

Here's what she posted on twitter: https://x.com/molls/status/1612190719237816320?lang=es

Troy's episode:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CnKpmABBfl9/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CnKrgFYBh0Q/

Liz's episode: https://www.patreon.com/LizExplains/posts/77165806?utm_campaign=postshare_fan

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Everyone, including Lizzo herself seems to be talking about whether her career is falling off. But why? We take a closer look at the 2023 lawsuit, the public response, and what Lizzo has said about the controversy to explore whether she can remain at the top of the music industry or if her time in the spotlight is beginning to fade.

02:16 Vagina Update

08:41 Lizzo Downfall Setup

09:25 Album Flop Numbers

12:48 Lizzo Blames Algorithm

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8GNNXT5/

27:22 Real Reason for the Lawsuit

28:51 Reading the Lawsuit

34:16 Quigley Religious Pressure

35:39 Banana Trick and Sex Talk

38:37 Ten Penises Fantasy

40:32 Tour Bus Harassment

45:26 Bananenbar Pressure

52:21 Lizzo Response Statement

59:07 Gayle King Interview

https://youtu.be/3ta5ZwjCU_U?si=AEx2nh1Xv1dH4KcF

01:07:28 Fantano Flop Debate

https://youtu.be/PCqX8X-CmDk?si=-8xLI2vW9VdaMFNJ

01:14:26 Ozempic And Image

01:16:01 Katy Perry Watch it Burn Reaction

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=katy+perry+watch+it+burn

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Caroline Calloway has reappeared on our timelines, and dare we say it, she seems a little more mature? That said, she recently participated in a poetry reading alongside Woah Vicky and appeared less than thrilled to be sharing the spotlight. We take a trip down memory lane, revisiting Caroline’s rise to internet infamy, the scammer allegations that made her viral, her friendship fallout with Natalie Beach, and her latest TikToks about a recent breakup. Plus, we unpack the poetry reading that had everyone talking.

LINKS:

Who is Caroline Calloway? https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/caroline-calloway-the-cut

I was Caroline Calloway by Natalie Beach

Caroline's TikTok Breakup Series: https://www.tiktok.com/@carolinecalloway/video/7648672023434104094?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7411269857775830570

Caroline's snark sub post on her breakup series: https://www.reddit.com/r/SmolBeanSnark/comments/1u37x1t/ridiculousness/

Caro at Woah Vicky Poetry Reading: https://www.reddit.com/r/SmolBeanSnark/comments/1uc0jp7/caro_woah_vicky_poetry_reading/

Celebrity Memoir Book Club covered Scammer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slZPZjIXDQs

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This week, we’re diving into why we’re oddly grateful Jennifer Aniston once called out Jamie Foxx. Nathan tries Megan Markle’s latest jam, and Katie shares her thoughts on Maternal Instinct on Netflix. Nathan also breaks down the TikTok feud between Kat Von D and someone named Teva, while Jeffree Star jumps in claiming, “I know what really happened!”

We also cover Tyra Banks’ lawsuit against Netflix over an America’s Next Top Model documentary, which includes allegations of mishandled on-camera sexual assault and selective editing. Plus, we discuss a Vanity Fair report that raises claims of toxic leadership by Alex Cooper’s husband, Matt Kaplan, at Unwell Media.

And in lighter news, chia seeds are trending on Threads—and Katie shares a go-to breakfast recipe.

00:00 Why We Hate Jamie Foxx

02:13 Diddy Rumor

03:21 Meghan Markle

06:28 Maternal Instinct

16:50 Kendra TikTok Moment

19:22 Teva Tells His Story about Kat Von D

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBVrwreW/

Kat responds: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBVhjwVW/

56:17 Jeffree Star Breadcrumbs

https://www.instagram.com/p/DZiui0EgAPs/

01:07:27 Tyra Banks Sues Netflix

https://www.reddit.com/r/NetflixDocumentaries/comments/1u4zd1q/tyra_banks_is_suing_netflix_over_the_americas/

01:15:19 Unwell Media Expose

https://www.vanityfair.com/story/alex-coopers-mean-girl-problem?srsltid=AfmBOooMl7uf42XtntfVhOMY921Tg9rQDIxDwjMBsD6IcuZnzdqwy7E5

01:27:26 Chia Oats Gut Recipe

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