What if telepathy isn’t fantasy, but an undiscovered frontier of biophysics? In this conversation, Helené Wahbeh of the Institute of Noetic Sciences joins us to explore how mind-to-mind communication could be studied through neuroscience, quantum theory, and consciousness research.

We’re not obsessed with whether it’s real — we’re asking how it would work if it were. A tightrope the edge of what's known, where psi phenomena meets mechanism and physics.

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00:00 Go! Intro to Psi Phenomena

00:05:00 Media Influence on Psi Research

00:06:12 Dr. Wahbeh's Journey into Psi Research

00:19:00 Historical Context of Channeling Practices

00:24:54 Medicalization and Altered States

00:26:04 Spirit Influence on Mental Health

00:29:27 Historical Context of Spiritualism

00:32:56 Power and Intermediaries in Religion

00:35:12 Personal Experiences with Spirituality

00:39:50 The Nature of Prophecy and Free Will

00:42:00 Interpretation and Influence of Messages

00:47:30 Interconnectedness and Source of Information

00:49:33 Physics vs. Spiritual Experience

00:50:14 Importance of Rigorous Evidence in Telepathy Studies

00:53:37 Controlled Studies vs. Anecdotal Evidence

00:56:43 Challenges of Proving Paranormal Phenomena

00:59:38 Scientific Validity of Psychic Abilities

01:05:04 Emotional Context in Psychic Experiences

01:11:10 Practical Applications and Future of Psychic Research

01:13:21 Exploring Mechanisms of Telepathy

01:21:04 Instrumentalization of Mental Phenomena

01:32:04 Psychokinesis and Random Number Generators

01:36:52 Non-Physical Mechanisms of Interaction

01:37:40 Exploring Physical vs. Non-Physical Mechanisms

01:42:00 Philosophical Debate on Mechanism and Consciousness

01:49:30 Future of Mechanistic Understanding

01:58:30 Imagining Intentionality in Interconnected Fields

02:01:56 Exploring Consciousness Models

02:05:50 Interconnectedness and Humility in Understanding

02:09:43 Transcendent Experiences and Science

02:13:21 Physics and Mysticism: Distinct Yet Connected

02:22:00 Music, Emotion, and Scientific Inquiry

02:25:11 Exploring Diverse Worldviews

02:27:08 Speculating on Telepathy's Impact

02:31:43 Navigating Uncertainty and Truth

02:34:03 Embracing Collaboration for Future

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