In this episode of the Energy Changemakers podcast, host Elisa Wood discusses the concept of non-energy benefits with Roger Lin, Senior Attorney for the Center for Biological Diversity. They explore the importance of valuing the social, environmental, and community impacts of energy decisions, which are often overlooked in traditional energy planning. California's efforts to incorporate non-energy benefits into energy resource planning are highlighted, including the ongoing proceedings and potential outcomes. The conversation delves into the challenges of quantifying these benefits, the problems with current least-cost optimization methods, and the broader implications for climate justice and energy resilience.

00:00 Introduction to Energy Changemakers

01:16 Understanding Non-Energy Benefits

02:13 Interview with Roger Lin

05:24 California's Non-Energy Benefits Proceeding

19:10 Challenges and Opposition

34:01 Future Implications and Broader Impact

36:45 Conclusion and Call to Action
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