What now? What next? Insights into Australia's tertiary education sector

Industry-VET engagement: "it's not just about the curriculum"


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In this episode of the podcast Claire is joined by Timmy Theopelus, Vice President Business Development and Strategic Partnerships at Axioo - part of the Indonesian technology company PT Tera Data Indonusa.

Timmy explains why PT Tera Data developed the Axioo Class program which now operates in almost 1,000 vocational colleges in Indonesia and why the program has been recognised by the International Labour Organisation for its effectiveness.

As Australia considers how to keep Training Packages current and how to foster closer links between industry and VET - there is a lot we can learn from this great Indonesian example of hi-tech collaboration.

Also in recent news - two former podcast guests, AiGroup's Megan Lilly and the ACTU's Liam O'Brien, have been appointed as Deputy Chairs of the Jobs and Skills Australia Advisory Board: https://www.jobsandskills.gov.au/engage/about/ministerial-advisory-board

If you want to listen back to their views - you'll find them at:

  • Episode 46: (Megan Lily) https://whatnowwhatnext.buzzsprout.com/345782/8740975-the-expert-view-on-digital-transformation-and-skills
  • Episode 98: (Liam O'Brien) https://whatnowwhatnext.buzzsprout.com/345782/13654759-the-actu-s-liam-o-brien-on-vet-reform-where-we-re-at-and-what-s-needed

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  • Email me at: [email protected]


The ‘What now? What next?’ podcast recognises Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people as Australia’s traditional custodians. In the spirit of reconciliation we are proud to recommend John Briggs Consulting as a leader in Reconciliation and Indigenous engagement. To find out more go to www.johnbriggs.net.au

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