What goes on inside one of the most secure, secretive and at times controversial British institutions? The Times is the first newspaper to be allowed into some of the most secure laboratories at Porton Down.

Plus: an exclusive interview with defence secretary Ben Wallace, who warns of a growing threat of chemical and biological attacks.

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Guest: Larisa Brown, defence editor at The Times.

Host: Manveen Rana.

Times stories mentioned in this episode:

• Inside Porton Down, Britain’s biological threats laboratory: anthrax in the fridge and vials of plague
• Fake finger will test how long coronavirus can survive
• Growing risk of attacks as world order crumbles

Clips used: BBC, ITV News, ITN.

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