Betsy Hicks-Russ and Rachel Winder of Auticulate, explore the complexities of autism from an autistic perspective. They discuss various topics including the importance of presuming competence, the challenges of sensory overload, and the nuances of meltdowns. Rachel shares her insights on ground-up thinking versus top-down thinking, the role of humor in managing stress, and the significance of understanding triggers. The conversation emphasizes the need for empathy and support for autistic individuals, particularly during challenging moments. In this conversation, Rachel Winder and Betsy Hicks-Russ delve into the complexities of neurodiversity, focusing on autism and ADHD. They explore the emotional and sensory experiences of individuals with these conditions, discussing coping mechanisms for meltdowns, the significance of breath in calming techniques, and the challenges of transitioning between activities. The discussion also highlights the concept of looping in thoughts and sounds, sensory processing, and the importance of routines for neurodivergent individuals. Rachel shares her personal experiences and insights, emphasizing the need for understanding and support in navigating daily life as a neurodivergent person.

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