Philippe Karl, renowned rider and teacher of French classical riding, shares his passionate critiques of modern dressage riding, and discusses how we can train according to the nature of the horse, and what differentiates the French classical tradition.

Philippe Karl has been riding and teaching for over 50 years, and was a rider of the famous Cadre Noir in Saumur, France for 13 years. Having started his own school called the School of Lightness, or l’École de Légèreté, he has taught students and instructors around the world. A vocal advocate for kind and logical horse training, he has debated with dressage authorities such as Christoph Hess on the current state of dressage training and suggested making changes for the future of the sport.

In this episode, he shares:

◼️ How some common training techniques do not correspond to the nature of the horse

◼️ Why hyperflexion isn’t healthy and where modern dressage has become distorted

◼️ What defines French classical riding

◼️ How he gets a heavy horse light in the mouth

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:14 Defining What Classical Means and the Horse’s Nature

03:11 Is Modern Dressage a Positive Evolution?

06:34 How to Educate a Horse Differently

10:50 The Modern German Influence on the Dressage World

14:59 Changing Misconceptions of Training and Baucherism

25:05 Principles of Baucher and the French Tradition

31:35 The Myth of Uniform Bend Through the Whole Spine

37:24 Why is Riding in a Low and Hyperflexed Position Unhealthy?

44:15 Why Dressage Horses Break Down

50:59 Debating with Christoph Hess and Working the Horse at the Walk or Halt

57:49 What are Flexions and How to Make the Horse Light in the Mouth

1:10:00 Breaking The Learning Process into Small Pieces

1:11:32 What Would You Recommend for Riders Listening?

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Classical dressage master Luís Valença shares about equestrian art, stories of his work with horses and Nuno Oliveira, and what makes a classical rider. 

Luís Valença is a renowned Portuguese classical master with over 60 years of experience. He studied directly with masters such as Nuno Oliveira, worked with the Portuguese School of Equestrian Art, and has been driving spectacular equestrian shows like Apassionata and Cavalluna with his family. For over 40 years, he has taught and trained horses and riders on his own farm in Portugal, where his daughters continue to teach in this tradition.

In this episode, he shares:

• How Nuno Oliveira transformed his horses using the system of François Baucher
• The story of one horse that changed the course of his life and career
• What differentiates riders who advance to equestrian art, from those who can only ride
• What makes a rider truly classical

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

2:24 - Developing a Classical Rider with Freedom

3:36 - Sport Dressage Riders with a Classical Foundation

4:47 - Nuno's Passion and Listening to Classical Music

6:11 - Story of Nuno Oliveira, Harpalo Prince, and Equestrian Art

9:41 - My Masters, Background, and the methods of François Baucher

15:03 - The Story of Sultão and the Beginning of Apassionata and Cavalluna

19:10 - Why Riders Come to My Stables from Around the World

27:38 - Working with Different Horses like Lusitanos and Warmbloods

30:33 - Story of Nuno Oliveira and Bunker, with Hélène Arianoff and Michel Henriquet

35:49 - Using the Aids Without Force, and Classical Dressage

38:38 - What Exercises Help the Rider Improve their Aids

40:02 - The Role of Love in Working with Horses

41:38 - The Pictures in My Arena and My Inspirations

44:36 - How Can People Learn from My Methods?

🐎 Learn more about Luís Valença’s Work Through the Valença Academy:

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