The Startup Podcast

Insiders React: Did Zuckerberg Sabotage Instagram? + Apple’s New Devices, James Cameron on AI


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Instagram’s co-founder, Kevin Systrom, helped define the modern social web—now he’s calling out Zuckerberg in court.

And are Apple’s smart glasses finally catching up to Meta’s AI-powered wearables?


In this episode, Chris Saad and Yaniv Bernstein react to some of the biggest headlines in tech and startup land.

From explosive testimony by Instagram’s co-founder to Apple’s delayed (but intriguing) entry into foldables and wearables, the hosts unpack what these developments really mean for startup founders and operators.

They also dissect Avatar director James Cameron’s surprising stance on AI and copyright, challenging how creators should think about inspiration vs. infringement in the age of LLMs.


In this episode, you will:

  • Unpack the Instagram founder’s claims that Zuckerberg sabotaged his company post-acquisition
  • Explore what Apple’s rumored smart glasses mean for the future of ambient computing
  • Evaluate the practicality of a foldable iPhone and why the form factor still feels niche
  • Hear why founders often regret selling too early—and what you should learn from it
  • Learn how Meta may have outmaneuvered Apple in AI wearables
  • Understand James Cameron’s bold perspective on how AI “scraping” compares to human creativity
  • Rethink how copyright law might evolve in an era of generative models


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