Cell C CEO Jose Dos Santos sat down with TechCentral editor Duncan McLeod to talk about the state of the telecommunications industry in South Africa, in specific reference to ICT policy. In the podcast, Dos Santos explains why he thinks government's plan to mandate a national wholesale open-access network is a good idea (with caveats). The Cell C boss talks about the planned recapitalisation of the company, how the deal with Blue Label Telecoms came about, and touches on its recent financial results. The conversation also covers network neutrality and mobile termination rates, which Dos Santos believes should be cut to zero.