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Malaria is caused not by a virus or bacterium, but by a complex, shape-shifting parasite that has evolved alongside us for millennia. This has made vaccine development a brutal challenge.
In this episode, Jacob and Saloni are joined by Katharine Collins, who co-invented the second malaria vaccine, called R21, during her PhD. They discuss the gruelling process of reverse-engineering a vaccine and eureka moments along the way. They ask whether the biggest barriers to new vaccines are scientific or financial, and what it will take to finally eradicate one of natureʼs most vicious killers.
Hard Drugs is a podcast from Works in Progress about medical innovation presented by Saloni Dattani and Jacob Trefethen.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
05:08 Our favourite parasites
10:12 How to invent a vaccine during your PhD
34:18 Why is it called the R21 vaccine?
37:32 Moving from the bench to billions of doses
41:43 The vicious life cycle of malaria parasites
46:15 Malaria research IN MICE
53:03 The murderer in malaria research
55:51 Would you volunteer to get infected by malaria?
1:08:21 Why did the first malaria vaccine take so long?
1:18:26 Could we have had the vaccine sooner?
1:40:48 Vaccine versus vaccine: which one’s better?
1:46:53 If we did this again today, could we make better vaccines?
2:04:55 Conclusion and our reasons for pessimism and optimism
You can watch or listen on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts.
Saloni’s substack newsletter: https://www.scientificdiscovery.dev/
Jacob’s blog: https://blog.jacobtrefethen.com/
Acknowledgements:
Works in Progress
Thesis
Books
Articles and reports
By Saloni Dattani & Jacob Trefethen5
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Malaria is caused not by a virus or bacterium, but by a complex, shape-shifting parasite that has evolved alongside us for millennia. This has made vaccine development a brutal challenge.
In this episode, Jacob and Saloni are joined by Katharine Collins, who co-invented the second malaria vaccine, called R21, during her PhD. They discuss the gruelling process of reverse-engineering a vaccine and eureka moments along the way. They ask whether the biggest barriers to new vaccines are scientific or financial, and what it will take to finally eradicate one of natureʼs most vicious killers.
Hard Drugs is a podcast from Works in Progress about medical innovation presented by Saloni Dattani and Jacob Trefethen.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
05:08 Our favourite parasites
10:12 How to invent a vaccine during your PhD
34:18 Why is it called the R21 vaccine?
37:32 Moving from the bench to billions of doses
41:43 The vicious life cycle of malaria parasites
46:15 Malaria research IN MICE
53:03 The murderer in malaria research
55:51 Would you volunteer to get infected by malaria?
1:08:21 Why did the first malaria vaccine take so long?
1:18:26 Could we have had the vaccine sooner?
1:40:48 Vaccine versus vaccine: which one’s better?
1:46:53 If we did this again today, could we make better vaccines?
2:04:55 Conclusion and our reasons for pessimism and optimism
You can watch or listen on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts.
Saloni’s substack newsletter: https://www.scientificdiscovery.dev/
Jacob’s blog: https://blog.jacobtrefethen.com/
Acknowledgements:
Works in Progress
Thesis
Books
Articles and reports

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