Are Israel and Iran on the brink of war? Ravi takes a closer look at the rapidly escalating conflict and the unsettling possibility that the U.S. is more deeply involved than most Americans realize. He also explores the growing battle within MAGA over America’s role on the global stage, the political opportunism accompanying the recent wave of political violence, and how the Trump administration’s threats to ramp up deportation efforts could upend key industries that rely on undocumented workers.

Patrick McGee then joins Ravi to discuss his new book Apple in China, a sweeping investigation into Apple’s entanglement with the Chinese state. They discuss how one of the world’s most powerful companies may have supercharged America’s biggest geopolitical rival and what that means for the future of geopolitics, tech, and our iPhones.

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