Is Ron DeSantis’s campaign in its death throes, or can he stage a comeback? Tara Palmeri and Florida insider Peter Schorsch search for an answer to this question and more in their conversation about DeSantis’s upcoming and extremely random debate with Gavin Newsom, who's not even in the presidential race.

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Host: Tara Palmeri

Guest: Peter Schorsch

Producers: Devon Manze and Conor Nevins

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