What challenges do organisations face in managing DEI – particularly when it comes to focusing more on inclusion than diversity? In the latest episode, Chris talks to Jig Ramji, senior human resources professional who has worked at some of the biggest brands including the London Stock Exchange Group, Bloomberg and Fujitsu. They look at questions like:

- How do you create a sense of belonging for everyone within an organisation?

- How can you break the cycle of hiring similar profiles in leadership roles to deliver true diversity and inclusion?

- What can HR and marketing learn from each other when it comes to selling and communicating HR solutions to employees?

Jig and Chris also discussed the links to LACE’s current campaign around employee experience and how the utopia organisations should strive for is one that encompasses inclusion, belonging, respect, empathy, and employee experience. Should there be a shift in language from diversity to more inclusive terms, with a focus on creating environments where everyone feels valued and accountable for fostering a positive workplace culture? Additionally, how essential is the importance of measuring success through more nuanced and intersectional data rather than simplistic metrics?