Robert is joined this week by Tony Seba, world-renowned thought-leader, Silicon Valley entrepreneur, educator and the author of the Amazon #1 best-selling book "Clean Disruption of Energy and Transportation: How Silicon Valley Will Make Oil, Nuclear, Natural Gas, Coal, Electric Utilities and Conventional Cars Obsolete by 2030."

Tony's work focuses on the convergence of technologies, business models, and product innovations that disrupt the world's major industries. Illustrating his approach by using the metaphor "A caterpillar is not a butterfly, and a butterfly is not a caterpillar with wings." Tony explains how we must look at these challenges differently if we are to find a route to super-abundance.