We sit down with Dr. Mohamed Abdou, a Muslim anarchist scholar and activist, to discuss the intersections of decolonization, abolition, and spiritual resistance. Dr. Abdou shares his journey from Cairo to Turtle Island, reflecting on his political awakening through Frantz Fanon, Malcolm X, and grassroots movements like the Zapatistas and Black Liberation Army. Check out this website fore more information wearemohamed.com and mabdou.net

📖 Read Dr. Abdou’s book: Islam and Anarchism – challenging the idea that Islam is authoritarian and that anarchism is anti-religious.

https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9780745341927

We discuss the role of identity in political struggle, the lessons of global liberation movements, and how anti-Blackness, Islamophobia, and white supremacy continue to shape justice struggles today. Abdou also highlights the urgency of building alternative economies, co-learning spaces, and revolutionary communities as part of a transformative future.

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INTERVIEW CHAPTERS

00:00 Intro

00:53 What was a young Dr. Abdou like?

13:15 How do you be in solidarity with others and also learn from alongside others in radical/community spaces?

24:25 Exploring the radical potential of co-cops, collectivism, and education & vanguardism

31:06 Follow THE DUGOUT on Patreon

31:33 On archival, Malcolm X and radicalization, and colonial erasure

34:52 Dr. Abou on whether to claim Muslim Anarchism and Anarcho-Islam

38:59 On surviving despite the odds and radical theology

43:30 On the 2024 Palestine student encampment protests, state violence/compliance, and insurrection

49:05 Unpacking decolonial struggles and afro-pessimism from Dr. Abdou's personal experiences

01:01:27 What are the challenges and lessons for revolutionary movements now?

01:01:57 What history teaches us the patterns of revolutionary movements

01:06:33 OUTRO

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Mentioned in This Episode:

📚 Islam and Anarchism by DR. MOHAMED ABDOU

📚 Black Skin, White Masks By Frantz Fanon

📚 The Autobiography of Malcolm X By Malcolm X & Alex Haley

📚 How Europe Underdeveloped Africa By Walter Rodney - https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9781788731188

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