In this episode of the Issues Podcast, Stephen and Martin unpack what true spiritual leadership looks like from 1 Corinthians 4, addressing why it is often misunderstood in today’s churches and why fewer young men seem willing to step into leadership roles. They explore the tension between faithfulness and success, the dangers of personality-driven ministry, and the challenge of developing the next generation of leaders.

With honest discussion about ministry realities, delegation, and the long-term work of discipleship, this conversation encourages believers to pursue leadership that is humble, biblical, and ultimately accountable to Christ.