Chef Jacob Schumack and photographer Roy Son are both experts in their respective crafts. But you know what else they’re good at? Eating. I consider these gentlemen to be professional diners. They’ve eaten at a lot of places in their day and their perspectives on dining are interesting to me right now. Why? Because the way we dine at restaurants has changed a lot in the last three years. To get a better insight into what those changes are – and how the industry can learn from these changes – I invited these guys onto the show to discuss how, why, and where they eat out.

CORRECTION: We labeled this season incorrectly at the beginning. This is actually season 6 episode 2. Daniel del Prado was season 6 episode 1. The Milwaukee Files were their own special thing. The next episode after this will be season 6 episode 3.

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Welcome to Niver Niver Land: a podcast that addresses massive change in the restaurant industry.

The show is hosted by award-winning restaurateur Tim Niver – a local legend of Minnesota's Twin Cities – known for his involvement with fabled spots like Aquavit, Town Talk Diner, and Strip Club Meat & Fish. Today, he runs Saint Dinette and Mucci's Italian in St. Paul.

Tim sees a major problem with restaurant industry dialogue: a lack of discussion about the ongoing, unprecedented change. Many of those who work in the industry are still trying to wrap their heads around what has happened over the last two years.

Today, Tim is ready to talk about these things – through his trademark wit and foolishness – so that we can better appreciate and preserve the cultural importance of restaurants.