Jake and Jonathan

This episode starts off with a very subtle ad, thatā€™s not at all in-your-face. Also, itā€™s not sponsored by Squarespace or Zip Recruiter. Itā€™s important that you know that. Some of the things Jake & Jon talk about in this episode:

How AJ&Smart went from šŸ’©šŸ’©šŸ’© to šŸ˜ŽšŸ¤ÆšŸ¤© when it comes to social media presence. Jonathan plans to go much deeper on content and share more about stuff that currently doesnā€™t get the spotlight, like strategy, stuff from the workshops and Q&Aā€™s, conversations at AJ&Smart, and day-to-day snippets. Also, thereā€™s going to be more content from AJ&Smart soon. A lot more. Like 10x more. Thereā€™s going to be a lot more documenting and repurposing content to keep things fresh. šŸ„¦ Because rotting videos are bad for the environment. šŸ¤¢

Jake briefly talks about spaceships, AI, and how AJ&Smart works like a hive mind.

Book discussion! Jakes and Jon talk about Jason Friedā€™s new book, [It Doesnā€™t Have to Be Crazy at Work](https://www.amazon.com/Doesnt-Have-Be-Crazy-Work/dp/0008323445/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1540145273&sr=8-1).

Jon gets philosophical. Then he starts making a good case for _laziness_. Thatā€™s right being lazy is the new _hustle_!Ā 

What are design agencies? Jonathan wasnā€™t sure when he started AJ&Smart. Heā€™s still not sure to this day.Ā 

Would Jon sell his soul to big clients?

Jake joins in and talks about what success meant to him early in his career and how his views on success have evolved.

The episode wraps up with Jake reading some Amazon.com reviews for his new book Make Time. [**Buy Make Time!**](https://maketimebook.com/buy/)

**Links:**

[**Register now to get a spot for the Jakeā€™s & Jonā€™s 24 October Webclass**](https://ajsmart.com/webclass)

[**See Jake in London or Oslo**](https://jakeknapp.com/workshops/)

[Gary Vee on Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/garyvee/)

[Gary Vee on Twitter](https://twitter.com/garyvee)

[Vayner Media](https://vaynermedia.com/)

[Vayner Mediaā€™s 4Ds](https://vaynermedia.com/service/4ds/)

[AJ&Smart on Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/ajsmartdesign/)

[AJ&Smart on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeB_OpLspKJGiKv1CYkWFFw)

[**BOOK:** Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie](https://www.amazon.com/Ancillary-Justice-Imperial-Radch-Leckie/dp/031624662X)

[**BOOK:** It Doesnā€™t Have to Be Crazy at Work by Jason Fried & DHH](https://www.amazon.com/Doesnt-Have-Be-Crazy-Work/dp/0008323445/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1540145273&sr=8-1)

[PBC #49: MONA PATEL on Starting and Growing a Multi Million Dollar Design Agency](https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial/pbc-49-mona-patel-on-starting-and-growing-a-multi-million-dollar-design-agency-b7b78b26250a?source=collection_home---6------1---------------------)

[**BOOK:** Rework by Jason Fried & DHH](https://www.amazon.com/Rework-Jason-Fried/dp/0307463745?keywords=rework&qid=1540148054&sr=8-1&ref=sr_1_1)

[The web class in which Jon talks about starting AJ&Smart](https://events.genndi.com/register/818182175026315610/449c6ff542)

[ajsmart.com/masterclass](https://ajsmart.com/masterclass)

[Amr on Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/amrkhalifeh/)

[**Buy Make Time!**](https://maketimebook.com/buy/)

[**Buy Sprint!**](https://www.thesprintbook.com/buy/)

[Check out, _nay_, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Master-Class:](https://ajsmart.com/masterclass)[ajsmart.com/masterclass](https://ajsmart.com/masterclass) šŸ’°

**Your Hosts:**

* Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: [@jakek](https://twitter.com/jakek)

* Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: [@jicecream](https://www.instagram.com/jicecream/)

* Write into the podcast: [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])

* Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: [PodcastTech.com](https://PodcastTech.com)

Show Notes (fan made by [@amrkhalifeh](https://www.instagram.com/amrkhalifeh/)): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

The podcast is 50, so itā€™s officially a middle-aged rambly guy! šŸ‘“šŸ» Thereā€™s someone in Jakeā€™s background, who suddenly takes over from Jake. He also invented the Design Sprint. Maybe itā€™s just Jake doing a French accent..? šŸ„– This episode literally has zero useful information for anyone. Itā€™s just Jake and Jonathan patting themselves on the back for recording 50 Skype calls of them talking and inflicting those conversations on the world. šŸ˜Œ But if you tuned in for the previous 49 episodes, then thatā€™s not likely to discourage you from listening. Have fun! šŸ¤“

Check out, _nay_, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Master-Class: [ajsmart.com/masterclass](https://ajsmart.com/masterclass) šŸ’°

**Links:**

[StƩphane Cruchon (Twitter](https://twitter.com/stephcru))

[design-sprint.com](https://www.design-sprint.com/)

[Google Design Sprint Conf](https://designsprintkit.withgoogle.com/conference-2018/highlights/)

[Dee (Instagram)](https://www.instagram.com/dhyana.scarano/)

[GruyĆØre cheese (Wikipedia)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruy%C3%A8re_cheese)

[John Zeratsky (Twitter)](https://twitter.com/jazer)

[**Buy Make Time!**](https://maketimebook.com/buy/)

[**Buy Sprint!**](https://www.thesprintbook.com/buy/)

[Jason Fried (Twitter)](https://twitter.com/jasonfried)

[**BOOK:** It Doesnā€™t Have to Be Crazy at Work by Jason Fried and DHH (Amazon.com)](https://www.amazon.com/Doesnt-Have-Be-Crazy-Work/dp/0062874780)

[**BOOK:** The Messy Middle by Scott Belsky (Amazon.com)](https://www.amazon.com/Messy-Middle-Finding-Through-Hardest/dp/0735218072)

[Gary Vee (Instagram)](https://www.instagram.com/garyvee/)

**Your Hosts:**

* Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: [@jakek](https://twitter.com/jakek)

* Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: [@jicecream](https://www.instagram.com/jicecream/)

* Write into the podcast: [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])

* Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: [PodcastTech.com](https://PodcastTech.com)

Show Notes (fan made by [@amrkhalifeh](https://www.instagram.com/amrkhalifeh/)): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

Jonathan interviews Mona Patel, who really makes Jonathan look like a boring, lazy person in comparison. Mona is the founder of 3 companies: [Motivate Design](http://www.motivatedesign.com/), [UX Hires](https://uxhires.com/), and [Insider Insight](http://www.seeinsiderinsights.com/). Aaaand sheā€™s the author of [Reframe: Shift the Way You Work, Innovate, and Think](https://www.amazon.com/Reframe-Shift-Work-Innovate-Think/dp/1619613182). Jonathan who?

**Some of the topics covered:**

Monaā€™s story in a nutshell. Her work at NASA(!!) and Kodak. šŸ¤Æ

How do you prove yourself in a company? Speak your mind, but only if you have something useful to say! šŸ˜›

Jonathan ADMITS he doesnā€™t think research is useless, and where itā€™s can be best employed. šŸ¤“

THE INSIDERS! _Who are they?!_ How are they contributing good karma to the world? And what is the Observation Method? šŸ‘€

Solopreneuringā€¦while pregnant! šŸ¤°šŸ½

How to hire well. šŸ‘©šŸ¼ā€šŸ’»

Tony Robbins comes into the story at some point. šŸ•ŗšŸ»

Why you should read Monaā€™s book, [Reframe](https://www.amazon.com/Reframe-Shift-Work-Innovate-Think/dp/1619613182). šŸ“–

Check out, _nay_, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Master-Class: [ajsmart.com/masterclass](https://ajsmart.com/masterclass) šŸ’°

**Links:**

[Mona Patel on Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/monakpatel/)

[Mona Patel on Twitter](https://twitter.com/monapatel)

[Motivate Design](http://www.motivatedesign.com/)

[UX Hires](https://uxhires.com/)

[GaryVee](https://www.garyvaynerchuk.com/)

[American Institutes for Research](https://www.air.org/)

[Design Research (Wikipedia)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_research)

[**Buy Sprint!**](https://www.thesprintbook.com/buy/)

[**BOOK:** Reframe: Shift the Way You Work, Innovate, and Think by Mona Patel](https://www.amazon.com/Reframe-Shift-Work-Innovate-Think/dp/1619613182)

**Your Hosts:**

* Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: [@jakek](https://twitter.com/jakek)

* Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: [@jicecream](https://www.instagram.com/jicecream/)

* Write into the podcast: [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])

* Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: [PodcastTech.com](https://PodcastTech.com)

Show Notes (fan made by [@amrkhalifeh](https://www.instagram.com/amrkhalifeh/)): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

Jonathan interviews Scott Belsky, founder of Behance and currently Adobe's Chief Product Officer and Executive Vice President of Creative Cloud, and only asks him questions that were sent in by you, the listener! _Just kidding_, Jonathan selfishly asks Scott questions about building a business and about leadership, because those are the ones most relevant to Jonathanā€™s current role as a CEO. But he does throw in a product question at the end. So thereā€™s at least one question for everyone! šŸ˜

Hereā€™s how the interview goes in broad strokes:

Jonathan _gushes_ over [Scott Belsky](https://medium.com/u/f8025419d9c8). šŸ˜

Scott Belsky on building Behance. šŸ‘·ā€

How to keep people motivated. EMPATHY! šŸ˜Œ

The line between life and work. šŸ’¼

The lows & highs of creating a business & the importance of self-awareness during both. šŸ“ˆ

What do you do when you get the feeling that itā€™s not going to work out? When do you know when to quit? Itā€™s all about conviction. šŸ¤“

How to deal with distractions? šŸ’©

Who _shouldnā€™t_ read the Messy Middle? šŸ›‘ šŸ“–

Whatā€™s more important, _ideas_ or _execution_? āœØ

A book within a book! šŸ§

How people are _lazy_, _vain_, and _selfish_. šŸ˜¬

Check out, _nay_, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Master-Class: [ajsmart.com/masterclass](https://ajsmart.com/masterclass) šŸ’°

## Links:

[ScottBelsky.com](http://www.scottbelsky.com/)

[Scott Belsky on Twitter](https://twitter.com/scottbelsky)

[Scott Belsky on Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/scottbelsky/)

[**BOOK:** Making Ideas Happen by Scott Belsky](https://www.amazon.com/Making-Ideas-Happen-Overcoming-Obstacles/dp/1591844118/)

[**BOOK:** The Messy Middle by Scott Belsky](https://www.amazon.com/Messy-Middle-Finding-Through-Hardest/dp/0735218072)

[99u.com](https://99u.adobe.com/)

[Behance.net](https://www.behance.net/)

[AskGaryVee 290: Scott Belsky on Starting Behance, Perseverance in Business, & the ā€œMessy Middleā€](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ue0lst-vRM)

[The Tim Ferriss Show: Scott Belskyā€Šā€”ā€ŠHow to Conquer the Messy Middle (#336)](https://tim.blog/2018/09/13/scott-belsky/)

[The Real Journey image](https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*p6sfo-5PbrssU7I7-PjZHA.png)

[Action Method: A Flexible and Intuitive Project Management System | 2008 | TechCrunch](https://techcrunch.com/2008/10/21/action-method-a-flexible-and-intuitive-task-management-system/?guccounter=1)

[**BOOK:** Anything You Want by Derek Sivers](https://www.amazon.com/Anything-You-Want-Lessons-Entrepreneur/dp/1591848261)

## **Your Hosts:**

* Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: [@jakek](https://twitter.com/jakek)

* Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: [@jicecream](https://www.instagram.com/jicecream/)

* Write into the podcast: [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])

* Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: [PodcastTech.com](https://PodcastTech.com)

Show Notes (fan made by [@amrkhalifeh](https://www.instagram.com/amrkhalifeh/)): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

Jonathan is famous and get recognized while holding underwear. šŸ‘™

Jake's new book Make Time is coming out tomorrow! šŸ”„šŸ“–šŸ”„

Jake and Jonathan discuss different approaches to giving talks. Jake always wings it, while Jonathan sweats every detail! Sound right, right? šŸ¤”

Jonathan charges an ungodly amount for talks...because he can. šŸ¤‘

Jake and Jonathan drop some wisdom on giving talks. Being entertaining is key. No forget that, actually just be serious. šŸ˜¶

Jake _candidly_ roasts Jonathan on his interview skills, then they talk about how TOTALLY confident they are when they interview guests. šŸ˜Ž

Creative Selection book discussion. Gut ā†’ demo ā†’ launch. How that relates to the sprint. Words matter: Prototype vs demo. šŸ‘ØšŸ»ā€šŸŽØ

Irish accent. ā˜˜ļø

Check out, nay, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Master-Class: ajsmart.com/masterclass šŸ’°

## **Links:**

[**Buy Make Time!**](https://maketimebook.com/buy/)

Review Make Time on: [Amazon.com](https://www.amazon.com/Make-Time-Distraction-Energy-Matters/dp/0525572422/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1522284129&sr=8-5&keywords=make+time&dpID=41KFAR5lvqL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch&linkCode=sl1&tag=maketimebook.com-20&linkId=b6eb40fe5d5aaf601f6e98c2e6591f55), [Amazon.co.uk](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Make-Time-Distraction-Energy-Matters/dp/0525572422/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1522284129&sr=8-5&keywords=make+time&dpID=41KFAR5lvqL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch&linkCode=sl1&tag=maketimebook.com-20&linkId=b6eb40fe5d5aaf601f6e98c2e6591f55), [Amazon.de](https://www.amazon.de/Make-Time-Distraction-Energy-Matters/dp/0525572422/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1522284129&sr=8-5&keywords=make+time&dpID=41KFAR5lvqL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch&linkCode=sl1&tag=maketimebook.com-20&linkId=b6eb40fe5d5aaf601f6e98c2e6591f55)

[Review Make Time on Goodreads](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/37880811-make-time)

[**Buy Sprint!**](https://www.thesprintbook.com/buy/)

[PBC #Why Most Design Conferences Suck](https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial/pbc-11-why-most-design-conferences-suck-f6966b5b9951)

[**BOOK:** Confessions of a Public Speaker by Scott Berkun | Amazon.com](https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Public-Speaker-Scott-Berkun/dp/1449301959/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1537712372&sr=8-1&keywords=confessions+of+a+public+speaker+scott+berkun)

[PBC #Silicon Valleyā€™s Top CEO/Leadership Coach: KIM SCOTT](https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial/pbc-46-silicon-valleys-top-ceo-leadership-coach-kim-scott-48cfdf416086)

[Scott Belsky](http://www.scottbelsky.com/)

[The GaryVee Audio Experience](https://www.garyvaynerchuk.com/podcast/)

[The Tim Ferriss Show](https://tim.blog/podcast/)

[Terry Gross | Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Gross)

[PBC X: Jason Fried gives us SAVAGE Product Advice](https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial/pbc-x-jason-fried-gives-us-savage-product-advice-316df7c11c93)

[**BOOK:** Creative Selection by Ken Kocienda | Amazon.com](https://www.amazon.com/Creative-Selection-Inside-Apples-Process/dp/1250194466/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1537714260&sr=8-1&keywords=creative+selection)

[Go (subtly) nag Chris Do to invite Jonathan on his podcast](https://twitter.com/theChrisDo)

## **Your Hosts:**

* Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: [@jakek](https://twitter.com/jakek)

* Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: [@jicecream](https://www.instagram.com/jicecream/)

* Write into the podcast: [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])

* Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: [PodcastTech.com](https://PodcastTech.com)

Show Notes (fan made by [@amrkhalifeh](https://www.instagram.com/amrkhalifeh/)): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

This week Jonathan interviews his favorite Author Kim Scott, Founder of Candor Inc. & CEO coach for some of Silicon Valley's biggest companies. She was on the faculty of Apple University and was a leader for Google AdSense, YouTube and the Double Click team.

Her other achievements include managing a pediatric clinic in war-torn Kosovo and building a diamond cutting company in Russia - Basically not many people can say they have her experiences in life, so listening to all this condensed into 30+ minutes should definitely put a smile on your face. It did ours!

She's here to show off her book Radical Candor, which just so happens to be the best book on management and leadership that we've every read! You'll have yourself saying 'how did i not know this'!!!

Enjoy.

Find out more about the Master-Class here:ā€Øā€Ø AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Master-Class: https://ajsmart.com/masterclass

## Links

[radicalcandor.com](https://www.radicalcandor.com/)

[**BOOK:** Radical Candor | Amazon.com](https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Candor-Kickass-Without-Humanity/dp/1250103509)

Radical Candor podcast: [Apple Podcasts](https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/radical-candor/id1188489488?mt=2), [Google Podcasts](https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vcmFkaWNhbGNhbmRvcg%3D%3D), [Overcast](https://overcast.fm/itunes1188489488/radical-candor)

[Apple University | Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_University)

[Sergey Brin | Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin)

[Eric Schmidt | Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Schmidt)

[Sheryl Sandberg| Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheryl_Sandberg)

[Radical Candor 2x2 Grid](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLY6Cu-VAAEZJfm.jpg)

[Bonus.ly](https://bonus.ly)

## Your Hosts

* Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: [@jakek](https://twitter.com/jakek)

* Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: [@jicecream](https://www.instagram.com/jicecream/)

* Write into the podcast: [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])

* Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: [PodcastTech.com](https://PodcastTech.com)

Show Notes (fan made by [@amrkhalifeh](https://www.instagram.com/amrkhalifeh/)): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

This week something cool is about to dropā€¦ and itā€™s not the theme tune to Fragil Rock. Itā€™s that time for Appleā€™s special event - 2018. The invitations are out, but so are the rumours. This year also comes with a whole bunch of leaks (whoooo let the dogs out). So Jonathan chats to Jake via some crappy Skype phone sound (apologies) and go over the pre-event rumours and leaks, as they surface.

We explore the 3 different iPhone models, possible iPad and iWatch improvements and what it means for this ā€˜Tick-Tockā€™ tock year. We also look at the flaws in Apples yearly improvements but the desire that captivates all Apple users to buy every year.

Oh and some Yodellingā€¦

Find out more about the Master-Class here:ā€Øā€Ø AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Master-Class: https://ajsmart.com/masterclass

### Links

1. [BOOK: Made to Stick: Why Some Ideas Survive and Others Die | Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1536516533&sr=8-1&keywords=made+to+stick)

2. [Buy Sprint!](https://www.thesprintbook.com/buy/)

3. [Buy Make Time!](https://maketimebook.com/buy/)

4. [IDEO](http://ideo.com/)

5. [Appleā€™s next iPhone event will be on September 12th | The Verge](https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/30/17795876/apple-iphone-event-2018-date-time-rumors-macbook-air-mac-mini-ipad-pro)

6. [Apple MacBook Pro with Touch Bar updated with ā€˜improvedā€™ third-generation keyboard | 9to5Mac](https://9to5mac.com/2018/07/12/apple-macbook-pro-with-touch-bar-updated-with-max-32-gb-ram-improved-third-generation-keyboard-true-tone-and-new-intel-chips/)

7. [Exclusive: This is ā€˜iPhone XSā€™ā€Šā€”ā€Šdesign, larger version, and gold colors confirmed | 9to5Mac](https://9to5mac.com/2018/08/30/2018-iphone-xs-design-larger-version-gold-exclusive/)

8. [Exclusive: Apple Watch Series 4 revealedā€Šā€”ā€Šmassive display, dense watch face, more | 9to5Mac](https://9to5mac.com/2018/08/30/exclusive-apple-watch-series-4/)

9. [Sign up for one of Jakeā€™s upcoming workshops!](https://jakeknapp.com/workshops)

10. [Buy the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass!](https://ajsmart.com/masterclass)

11. [How to Run 13 Design Sprints at Once: Inside Maker Week at The New York Times | Jake Knapp | NYTimes](https://open.nytimes.com/how-to-run-13-design-sprints-at-once-inside-maker-week-at-the-new-york-times-5d3b95ca2441)

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek

Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream

Write into the podcast: [email protected]

Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com

Show Notes (fan made): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

Ever wanted to hear from a creative design business master???

Well, today is another very special episode. This time Jonathan interviews Jules Ehrhardt of UsTwo fame about building one of the biggest most revered design companies.

Unfortunately, no Jake on this oneā€¦ But Jonathan and Jules expand on a recent article called ā€˜The State Of The Digital Nation 2020ā€™, diving deep into the commoditisation race to the bottom and how to outlast the pricing structure wars in design companies.

Article - https://medium.com/swlh/state-of-the-digital-nation-2020-venture-road-22de4377836

They also Chat about Julesā€™ start; from London to Japan, From Australia to the US and heading up offices around the world!ā€Øā€ØThis is now for sure, the worlds no.1 podcast - about design ā€“ officially!!! Because we have a number 1 designer on our show. Hope you enjoy it as much as we did!

Find out more about the Master-Class here;ā€Øā€Ø AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Master-Class: https://ajsmart.com/masterclass

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek

Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream

Write into the podcast: [email protected]

Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com

Show Notes (fan made): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

This week is a little different from our usual, Jonathan couldn't make it. So instead Jake is bringing you and interview from another show that he's just been on, talking about his new book 'Make Time'. You've heard us talk a lot about "buy Sprint", well soon you will be able to buy Make Time, so here you'll get your first in depth glimpse of what the book is all about.

The interview is from a Podcast called 'Time off' and the host is John Fitch.

Find out more about the Master-Class here;ā€Øā€Ø AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Master-Class: https://ajsmart.com/masterclass

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek

Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream

Write into the podcast: [email protected]

Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com

Show Notes (fan made): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

What's the difference between working as a designer in Silicon Valley and the rest of the world.... Well, the water closet for sure!

Jonathan and Jake chat about;

ā€¢ Working for big Silicon Valley companies,

ā€¢ How to position your values inline with people higher in the food chain,

ā€¢ How to ask for what you want without sounding sleazy,

ā€¢ And of course a whole bunch of polite restroom/bathroom humour.

Find out more about the Master-Class here;ā€Øā€Ø AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Master-Class: https://ajsmart.com/masterclass

ā‚¬500 off (until August 16th) with this code: PBCPODCAST

Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: @jakek

Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: @jicecream

Write into the podcast: [email protected]

Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: PodcastTech.com

Show Notes (fan made): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial