On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding the future of U.S. involvement in NATO. First on the show is James Carafano, Senior Counselor to the President at the Heritage Foundation and E.W. Richardson Fellow. Later, we hear from Ivan R. Eland, Senior Fellow at the Independent Institute and Director of the Independent Institute’s Center on Peace & Liberty. You can find James on X, formerly Twitter, at @JJCarafano and find Ivan at @Ivan_Eland.

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