First, Natalie Jarvey, the author of the Ankler's Like and Subscribe newsletter, joins Katey to talk about how Hollywood is trying once again to partner with some of the Internet's most popular creators — and why those creators still want Emmy recognition, too. Then Katey talks to Jason Isaacs, fresh off watching the finale of The White Lotus alongside his cast mates, about the wild ride of being on the most talked-about show in television, and some hard-won lessons from a career onscreen.

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