John talks with Jason Perlow. He's an OG food blogger, gourmand, writer and co-founder of eGullet.

They talk about the early days of food internet discussions, how it's changed and how toxic the current dialog has become. Also there is hope.

Jason also talks about being on no reservations with Anthony Bourdain.

Stick around after the end for a fun story about Bourdain and Eric Ripert.

Thanks for listening!